Thread: Jake Paul

Badou Jack taking on Makabu on the undercard I heard.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I was against both the Paul’s when they started boxing because I’m not into “influencers” and YouTube stars and such.

But he did expose the arrogance of MMA participants and fans. They thought they could box just because they train boxing. Now they know. I wanted to see him fight Masvidal too but I knew Dana would never let him take that beating. Now that MMA fans get it it’s time for boxing fans to learn or Jake to learn. But I don’t know how anyone can have a problem with a 6-0 fighter fighting an 8-0 fighter. And as I said in the Yarde fight thread, if he pivots and fights an MMA fight in PFL then the guy deserves respect. Anyone that fights professionals in their discipline deserves respect.

Still won’t like the guy though

jake also seems to do right by the fighters he promotes & puts real fighters on his cards

He's done right by Amanda Serrano, so that to me is a plus.

he has. off topic but i saw some saying that amanda serrano is the first undisputed champion from puerto rico, no she's not, first in the four belt era fine

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I was against both the Paul’s when they started boxing because I’m not into “influencers” and YouTube stars and such.

But he did expose the arrogance of MMA participants and fans. They thought they could box just because they train boxing. Now they know. I wanted to see him fight Masvidal too but I knew Dana would never let him take that beating. Now that MMA fans get it it’s time for boxing fans to learn or Jake to learn. But I don’t know how anyone can have a problem with a 6-0 fighter fighting an 8-0 fighter. And as I said in the Yarde fight thread, if he pivots and fights an MMA fight in PFL then the guy deserves respect. Anyone that fights professionals in their discipline deserves respect.

Still won’t like the guy though

jake also seems to do right by the fighters he promotes & puts real fighters on his cards

He's done right by Amanda Serrano, so that to me is a plus.

he has. off topic but i saw some saying that amanda serrano is the first undisputed champion from puerto rico, no she's not, first in the four belt era fine

I've seen that claim too. A lot! Good observation on a false claim!

Carlos Ortiz was undisputed lightweight champion from 1965 to 1968, back when it was just the WBC and the WBA.

Yeah... now that there are more belts (a factor complicated by different promoters and such)... it's tougher to accomplish.

jose torres was just before carlos but i thought it would be sixto? it may be difficult these days to collect all four belts but i think it was just as tough to become champion when there was only one belt. another question slightly related, how long before it starts being called the five belt era with the ring belt included?

Originally Posted by TIC

jose torres was just before carlos but i thought it would be sixto? it may be difficult these days to collect all four belts but i think it was just as tough to become champion when there was only one belt. another question slightly related, how long before it starts being called the five belt era with the ring belt included?

Sixto! Man... you ARE a boxing historian.

Yeah... Sixto Escobar was actually the first Puerto Rican world boxing champion. Back then it seems there was only one belt (the NBA, which would later become the WBA).

Waaayyy before my time... but I know there is actually a sports complex named after him in Old San Juan.

Jose "Chegui" Torres was another great one, and world champion as well. Yes... he was right around the time of Carlos Ortiz.

You know... you do a search on all three of them... and they all appear as undisputed champions at one time or another (again... fewer belts). So I'm not quite clear on the Amanda Serrano claim, unless like you said... they mean in the 4-belt era.

Also, all three are in the IBHoF.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

jose torres was just before carlos but i thought it would be sixto? it may be difficult these days to collect all four belts but i think it was just as tough to become champion when there was only one belt. another question slightly related, how long before it starts being called the five belt era with the ring belt included?

Sixto! Man... you ARE a boxing historian.

Yeah... Sixto Escobar was actually the first Puerto Rican world boxing champion. Back then it seems there was only one belt (the NBA, which would later become the WBA).

Waaayyy before my time... but I know there is actually a sports complex named after him in Old San Juan.

Jose "Chegui" Torres was another great one, and world champion as well. Yes... he was right around the time of Carlos Ortiz.

You know... you do a search on all three of them... and they all appear as undisputed champions at one time or another (again... fewer belts). So I'm not quite clear on the Amanda Serrano claim, unless like you said... they mean in the 4-belt era.

amanda is the first four belt undisputed champion from puerto rico, i could even accept the first undisputed featherweight champion from puerto rico but she is not the first undisputed champion from puerto rico. got to show respect to the greats of the past

fight week for jake v tommy would be perfect to announce tyson v oleksandr

Originally Posted by TIC

fight week for jake v tommy would be perfect to announce tyson v oleksandr

That would really be sad. Riding those coattails. If anything should have been the other way around riding the Fury name/connection etc.

Still say the existence and social media dumpster fire fling fest is rooted in top boxing 'stars' failing to fulfill professional obligations and simply making fan friendly mega fights. Or just fighting at all. Top contenders thinking 1 fight a year translates to a fluid fan base and anointment. Every void gets filled.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Originally Posted by TIC

fight week for jake v tommy would be perfect to announce tyson v oleksandr

That would really be sad. Riding those coattails. If anything should have been the other way around riding the Fury name/connection etc.

Still say the existence and social media dumpster fire fling fest is rooted in top boxing 'stars' failing to fulfill professional obligations and simply making fan friendly mega fights. Or just fighting at all. Top contenders thinking 1 fight a year translates to a fluid fan base and anointment. Every void gets filled.

Fury v Usyk should be announced and I can not see what the delay is all about.

Do you know what? I’m fucking done with Fury v Usyk. Don’t really care if it happens or not. Bored with it.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Do you know what? I’m fucking done with Fury v Usyk. Don’t really care if it happens or not. Bored with it.

We promise we'll proactively ask you when you are bored.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Originally Posted by TIC

fight week for jake v tommy would be perfect to announce tyson v oleksandr

That would really be sad. Riding those coattails. If anything should have been the other way around riding the Fury name/connection etc.

Still say the existence and social media dumpster fire fling fest is rooted in top boxing 'stars' failing to fulfill professional obligations and simply making fan friendly mega fights. Or just fighting at all. Top contenders thinking 1 fight a year translates to a fluid fan base and anointment. Every void gets filled.

Fury v Usyk should be announced and I can not see what the delay is all about.

Fury trying to find an astronomical fairy tale number to hear himself wobble on about greatness and talk outta both sides of his pie hole some more. Wouldn't put it passed him to sniff a Wilder 4, and only half joking .

I get the feeling Tyson fury might want to distance himself from the other fury, imagine him announcing a fight right after his brother gets beaten up.

I just hope that Tommy Banjos Jake in to next week so i can see the price of Prime energy drinks selling for the same price as a can of coke.