Thread: Anyone Else Feel Sorry for Zab Judah?

I mean really, this poor guy was the laughing stock of boxing for so long after Kostya made a fool of him,(and film is forever, so that will be there for the world to see for eternity), he get's beat down in his own backyard by a no-name, and in the biggest fight of his career, loses, again. But what broke my heart more than anything was this photo. Zab looks like a young man with broken dreams. How cruel this world can be

http://www.ufcfightnews.com/04-sworn...-judah5242.jpg

Fvck'em

He brought it on himself... Everything.

Originally Posted by smashcrusher

I mean really, this poor guy was the laughing stock of boxing for so long after Kostya made a fool of him,(and film is forever, so that will be there for the world to see for eternity), he get's beat down in his own backyard by a no-name, and in the biggest fight of his career, loses, again. But what broke my heart more than anything was this photo. Zab looks like a young man with broken dreams. How cruel this world can be

http://www.ufcfightnews.com/04-sworn...-judah5242.jpg

i wouldn't cry about it, but this was the reason why i wanted him to win....
Everyone has hopes, expectations and dreams....Zab is human after all, he'll have to show great integrity to come back. But that is life, and i can only hope the best for him.

Um.. Judah didn't disgrace himself in any way and gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight to date. This fight helped Zab actually.

Originally Posted by Starr

Um.. Judah didn't disgrace himself in any way and gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight to date. This fight helped Zab actually.

Couldn't disagree with you or Sal more.

Judah is a disgrace. That whole mess was intentional...you know it...I know it...the majority of the world knows it.

Even his fans in the arena that night saw the replay & new that was out of frustration & 100% intentional.

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Couldn't disagree with you or Sal more.

Judah is a disgrace. That whole mess was intentional...you know it...I know it...the majority of the world knows it.

Even his fans in the arena that night saw the replay & new that was out of frustration & 100% intentional.

No, I DON'T know it. because I didn't see it the same way you did and I never will. And it's not because I'm a Judah fan either. But I will disagree with you forever that everything was intentional and you blasting Judah for something every fighter has done. Do you say "fuck Bernard" for what he did against William Bo James? Did I? No I didn't because I know what it's like to be in the flow of boxing and in a zone so I will never ever see it that way.

Originally Posted by Starr

Um.. Judah didn't disgrace himself in any way and gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight to date. This fight helped Zab actually.

Come on now! Zab's speed is the only thing that helped him. Yes he won 3 of the first 4, but Floyd dominated 5-11, crushing him to the body, and taking his heart. Zab tried to fluster Floyd because he couldn't take it, then he was about to be dropped, and resorts to some bullshat.

I give Zab credit, but this wasn't a tough fight for Floyd at all. If they rematch, ZAB WILL BE KOD.

Zab didn't help himself, simply because, when he was getting hurt, he showed how little class he has, and can't hang with the big dogs.

I don't know if Floyd would ko Judah in a second fight or it would be similar to the first except Floyd would dominate more rounds simply because of what happened in the Taylor-Hopkins II fight... I thought Hopkins had Taylor figured out, but Taylor was more skilled than we outside the ring give him credit for, and same with Judah.

Originally Posted by Starr

Um.. Judah didn't disgrace himself in any way and gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight to date. This fight helped Zab actually.

i agree. he fouled floyd and then everything exploded. if roger hadn't jumped in the ring then there would have been a warning given to zab, maybe points taken, and then zab woulda got knocked out in the 11th. and lets admit it he would been KOd. it was a tough fight, but castillo gave much more trouble than zab. castillo made floyd run all night. mayweather pretty much took judah's best and delivered his own with ease.

Originally Posted by Starr

No, I DON'T know it. because I didn't see it the same way you did and I never will. And it's not because I'm a Judah fan either. But I will disagree with you forever that everything was intentional and you blasting Judah for something every fighter has done. Do you say "F*** Bernard" for what he did against William Bo James? Did I? No I didn't because I know what it's like to be in the flow of boxing and in a zone so I will never ever see it that way.

There was no flow there Starr...he was getting his ass handed to him & he did the only thing that he knew to do...he took aim & he tagged Floyd in the balls.

It wasn't a slip up...he knew what was happening & if Judah's as great as you say he is...he knew a whole lot better than to nail Floyd in the back of the head after hitting him in the balls.

Also...do you honestly want to sit here & compare Zab Judah & Bernard Hopkins? Come on now.

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Starr

No, I DON'T know it. because I didn't see it the same way you did and I never will. And it's not because I'm a Judah fan either. But I will disagree with you forever that everything was intentional and you blasting Judah for something every fighter has done. Do you say "F*** Bernard" for what he did against William Bo James? Did I? No I didn't because I know what it's like to be in the flow of boxing and in a zone so I will never ever see it that way.

There was no flow there Starr...he was getting his ass handed to him & he did the only thing that he knew to do...he took aim & he tagged Floyd in the balls.

It wasn't a slip up...he knew what was happening & if Judah's as great as you say he is...he knew a whole lot better than to nail Floyd in the back of the head after hitting him in the balls.

Also...do you honestly want to sit here & compare Zab Judah & Bernard Hopkins? Come on now.

I think what Bernard did would deserve more attention. Knocking James down against the ropes and then when the ref steps in between you to count hitting James multiple times and giving him the 'suck it' sign would merit it more to me then anything Zab did.

Originally Posted by Starr

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Starr

No, I DON'T know it. because I didn't see it the same way you did and I never will. And it's not because I'm a Judah fan either. But I will disagree with you forever that everything was intentional and you blasting Judah for something every fighter has done. Do you say "F*** Bernard" for what he did against William Bo James? Did I? No I didn't because I know what it's like to be in the flow of boxing and in a zone so I will never ever see it that way.

There was no flow there Starr...he was getting his a** handed to him & he did the only thing that he knew to do...he took aim & he tagged Floyd in the balls.

It wasn't a slip up...he knew what was happening & if Judah's as great as you say he is...he knew a whole lot better than to nail Floyd in the back of the head after hitting him in the balls.

Also...do you honestly want to sit here & compare Zab Judah & Bernard Hopkins? Come on now.

I think what Bernard did would deserve more attention. Knocking James down against the ropes and then when the ref steps in between you to count hitting James multiple times and giving him the 'suck it' sign would merit it more to me then anything Zab did.

do you hold bernard in high esteem? hes a gutless bum if there ever was. i've never seen such a dirty fighter get so much praise. if he didn't keep winning then he would be villified just like judah. judah just threw a few illegal punches. i've seen lotsa guys do that--remember tito/vargas, how many deliberate lows did tito throw? how many times has bernard deliberately gone after people's hips, and sneaky lows blows against the ropes, when the ref is on the other side? mayorga...no comment. zab did the best he could, and cracked after being dominated. its not admirable, but understandable.

Originally Posted by pete shonan

tito/vargas, how many deliberate lows did tito throw?

Everybody loves tito though. thats the difference. It won't be made as such a big deal. if Zab had done exactly what tito did, then people wouldn't give tito credit for knocking out Mayorga. I saw Tito Vargas again yesterday and Jim Lampley is all FOR Tito even with the low blows. but Judah throws one low blow and Jim Lampley says it's the most classless thing he's ever seen.

Honestly I can't say that I'm very sorry for him, although his post-fight statement giving thanks to "his lord and savior" Jesus Christ seemed way out of place, almost pathetic. Most of the fighters that espouse to being a Christian behave in a more gentlemanly manner both inside and outside the ring. Furthermore, to my knowledge, Zab Judah is Jewish, which is quite rare for a person of African heritage. There are Jews who espouse to being followers of Jesus but there aren't many of them. They're called messianic Jews. Maybe Zab and his father Yoel are? I don't know but Zab seems like a confused young man for sure.