Thread: David Benavidez v Caleb Plant 3/25

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

It certainly looks like it's gonna be a fun fight either way. Caleb is certainly more likeable than Benavidez... that's for sure.

A Caleb win will certainly raise the stock of Canelo, and even more important... will give Canelo an out for not ever facing Benavidez... which is something I don't want.

If I had to predict, though... I think Benavidez takes this one.

if david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn't

Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.

canelo already said he thinks david b wins

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

It certainly looks like it's gonna be a fun fight either way. Caleb is certainly more likeable than Benavidez... that's for sure.

A Caleb win will certainly raise the stock of Canelo, and even more important... will give Canelo an out for not ever facing Benavidez... which is something I don't want.

If I had to predict, though... I think Benavidez takes this one.

if david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn't

Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.

canelo already said he thinks david b wins

Thinking... hoping... two different things.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

It certainly looks like it's gonna be a fun fight either way. Caleb is certainly more likeable than Benavidez... that's for sure.

A Caleb win will certainly raise the stock of Canelo, and even more important... will give Canelo an out for not ever facing Benavidez... which is something I don't want.

If I had to predict, though... I think Benavidez takes this one.

if david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn't

Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.

canelo already said he thinks david b wins

Thinking... hoping... two different things.

canelo might be secretly hoping that caleb wins but he has predicted that david b will win

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

It certainly looks like it's gonna be a fun fight either way. Caleb is certainly more likeable than Benavidez... that's for sure.

A Caleb win will certainly raise the stock of Canelo, and even more important... will give Canelo an out for not ever facing Benavidez... which is something I don't want.

If I had to predict, though... I think Benavidez takes this one.

if david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn't

Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.

canelo already said he thinks david b wins

Thinking... hoping... two different things.

canelo might be secretly hoping that caleb wins but he has predicted that david b will win

agreed on both counts

I think plant has the ability to win this fight on his toes. The question is will he... or does he buy into the bad blood and the dirrell KO and stand in front of Benavidaz, trying to prove a point?

Benavidaz is a big kid. He seems a little slow and deliberate, but once he finds you he tries to put a hurting on you. I primarily think this is why the match was made from his side. There's not much you can do to improve a fighters pop aside from the more fundamental form things things. Either a fighter has it or he doesn't. I think Benavidaz's camp is riding on that principle and that they're going to try to recreate the canelo victory only faster, hoping they can goad plant into a nose to nose.. then power and combination punches pile up on plant and he crumples before he did against Canelo. Or else why fight why take this fight.

Plant seems like an alright guy and he's slicker than many people gave him credit for. Still there's two things that concern me. Aside from his lack of pop, he seems to be preoccupied at times with image and validation. That conversation in the ring with Canelo should have never happened. He sounded like a groupie looking for approval. I like that he carried himself with more dignity/ restraint than Canelo at the press conference.. but after the direll fight, the ode to Tito Ortiz was disrespectful and also premeditated because of the rivalry. The word is out, I feel and people are just going to try an rattle him now. No one is afraid of how he comes out after disrespected, just that he's reactionary.

I don't feel like this is the ferrari/ tank thing Martinez vs. Chavez Jr. was... probably more like Japanese tuner vs. Block American muscle car. The muscle cars powerful engine is a detriment to its speed, till it hits you.... which is still something it can do from behind... Calebs a tough kid but I think Benavidez eventually starts taking the body after the head gets too elusive. Maybe this ends with a shot to the liver and a follow up to the head. Or Plant toughs it out and loses on the cards. -- Unless he can put Benavidez on his ass in impressive fashion and give him something to think about early...Plants going to have a hard time keeping him off.

a battle of the coaches as well, jose benavidez sr is a bit underrated, i like how diego pacheco has improved under him, stephen "breadman" edwards is also very good in the corner & it showed in caleb's last fight. i wasn't that concerned with caleb's after fight antics against anthony. i think caleb has shown great restraint so far & may be in david's head

should we be concerned that angel 'memo' heredia is in camp benavidez?

Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I think plant has the ability to win this fight on his toes. The question is will he... or does he buy into the bad blood and the dirrell KO and stand in front of Benavidaz, trying to prove a point?

Benavidaz is a big kid. He seems a little slow and deliberate, but once he finds you he tries to put a hurting on you. I primarily think this is why the match was made from his side. There's not much you can do to improve a fighters pop aside from the more fundamental form things things. Either a fighter has it or he doesn't. I think Benavidaz's camp is riding on that principle and that they're going to try to recreate the canelo victory only faster, hoping they can goad plant into a nose to nose.. then power and combination punches pile up on plant and he crumples before he did against Canelo. Or else why fight why take this fight.

Plant seems like an alright guy and he's slicker than many people gave him credit for. Still there's two things that concern me. Aside from his lack of pop, he seems to be preoccupied at times with image and validation. That conversation in the ring with Canelo should have never happened. He sounded like a groupie looking for approval. I like that he carried himself with more dignity/ restraint than Canelo at the press conference.. but after the direll fight, the ode to Tito Ortiz was disrespectful and also premeditated because of the rivalry. The word is out, I feel and people are just going to try an rattle him now. No one is afraid of how he comes out after disrespected, just that he's reactionary.

I don't feel like this is the ferrari/ tank thing Martinez vs. Chavez Jr. was... probably more like Japanese tuner vs. Block American muscle car. The muscle cars powerful engine is a detriment to its speed, till it hits you.... which is still something it can do from behind... Calebs a tough kid but I think Benavidez eventually starts taking the body after the head gets too elusive. Maybe this ends with a shot to the liver and a follow up to the head. Or Plant toughs it out and loses on the cards. -- Unless he can put Benavidez on his ass in impressive fashion and give him something to think about early...Plants going to have a hard time keeping him off.

That's a great take! Agree on Plant getting a bit sucked into the head swell or need for recognition. All I've seen is talk of the Dirrell KO. But make no mistake he and Benavidez are completely different animals. Plant has the knowledge of range and mobility to keep Benavidez on the reset in gaps but there will be a point where he must make Benavidez respect him, but not by getting caught in exchanges especially to body.

unbeaten featherweights luis reynaldo nunez v christian olivo barreda are set for this card, will be on the youtube portion

shovel included

good card

caleb purchased the domain name davidbernavidez.com to sell his merch, genius
http://davidbenavidez.com/

i'd like to see tony weeks as the ref for this fight

Admittedly looking forward to this more than Tank v Ryan. No disrespect both excellent overdue top fights. Needed match ups. Both Benavidez and Plant just feel oddly more investment as individuals and purpose.