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    Default IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainm...d=BingNewsSerp

    "Gender-row boxer Imane Khelif cries ‘I am a woman’ after guaranteeing Olympic medal"



    I guess it's pretty clear by now that Imane Khelif is actually a biological woman, and has had to endure a lot of abuse following her victory over Italian boxer Angela Carini.

    All of that is well and good.

    But this puts a spotlight on the IOC moving forward, and how they plan to safeguard women's boxing (or other women's contact sports) from participation by transgender "women." Just because Imane was cleared, doesn't mean the issue is over. The IOC has a huge responsibility to ensure moving forward that women's Olympic sports remain fair. It's really too bad that something that was unthinkable 10-20 years ago is such a potential issue now. It's too bad that women's sports have to be protected from biological males who wish to compete against women, and have no qualms in doing so.

    On a related note, sports authorities finally came to their senses and banned transgender swimmer Lia Thomas from international competitions, including the Paris Olympics.

    It's about time sports authorities begin using some common sense, and protect the women's sports they supposedly so intensely claim to protect.



    BTW... I believe it was established that Imane Khelif has the male XY chromosome, and produces higher levels of testosterone than the average adult woman.

    In addition, she's ugly AF.

    Not that any of this disqualifies her, but DAYAMMM......

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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Blame the IBA

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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainm...d=BingNewsSerp

    "Gender-row boxer Imane Khelif cries ‘I am a woman’ after guaranteeing Olympic medal"



    I guess it's pretty clear by now that Imane Khelif is actually a biological woman, and has had to endure a lot of abuse following her victory over Italian boxer Angela Carini.

    All of that is well and good.

    But this puts a spotlight on the IOC moving forward, and how they plan to safeguard women's boxing (or other women's contact sports) from participation by transgender "women." Just because Imane was cleared, doesn't mean the issue is over. The IOC has a huge responsibility to ensure moving forward that women's Olympic sports remain fair. It's really too bad that something that was unthinkable 10-20 years ago is such a potential issue now. It's too bad that women's sports have to be protected from biological males who wish to compete against women, and have no qualms in doing so.

    On a related note, sports authorities finally came to their senses and banned transgender swimmer Lia Thomas from international competitions, including the Paris Olympics.

    It's about time sports authorities begin using some common sense, and protect the women's sports they supposedly so intensely claim to protect.



    BTW... I believe it was established that Imane Khelif has the male XY chromosome, and produces higher levels of testosterone than the average adult woman.

    In addition, she's ugly AF.

    Not that any of this disqualifies her, but DAYAMMM......
    This was a huge fuck up by the IOC and dangerous for the female fighters that went up against a man.
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Just like with Caster Semanya, I feel quite sorry for the two fighters. They were born female, brought up female, they have not transitioned, they are not dopers ……

    I imagine life would have been a whole lot easier for the Algerian boxer if she was a male generally.
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Just like with Caster Semanya, I feel quite sorry for the two fighters. They were born female, brought up female, they have not transitioned, they are not dopers ……

    I imagine life would have been a whole lot easier for the Algerian boxer if she was a male generally.


    In hindsight, with the knowledge that the Algerian was born a woman, I agree with you.

    Yet it's easy to see how all this gets magnified under the current ongoing controversies regarding trans athletes in women's competitions.

    People (not you) tend to rush to one side or the other when these things happen.

    The "male-looking" Algerian makes the Italian woman quit... people flock to condemn the Algerian, accusing her of being a man.

    The Algerian gets cleared... people flock to condemn those who were condemning the Algerian.

    The fact of the matter is that a man beating up on a woman is bound to happen in an international (or otherwise) boxing competition. It's only a matter of time.

    Boxing authorities have done fuck all in trying to head off potential tragedies, and it's going to come back and bite them in the ass.



    I personally had slowly come around to women's boxing, with excellent fighters like Amanda Serrano and Katie Taylor providing better entertainment than some men's matches.

    But shit like this tends to chip away at something like women's boxing... and eventually contribute to its undoing.

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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Just like with Caster Semanya, I feel quite sorry for the two fighters. They were born female, brought up female, they have not transitioned, they are not dopers ……

    I imagine life would have been a whole lot easier for the Algerian boxer if she was a male generally.
    Exactly. You have to feel sorry for the fighters. I think the biggest problem is the inconsistency between the AIBA’s and the IOC’s rules .
    But , although she’s a female, it is very dangerous to go into a boxing ring with high testosterone levels . It’s not like Caster Semenya running around a track. That poor woman couldn’t hurt anyone.
    But these people are punching each other, very different.
    However, call me an old fashioned miserable twat, but there is a simple solution to all of this.
    I’m sorry , but I think Women’s boxing should not even be a thing!
    The difference in standard makes it dangerous in itself. There are one or two decent skilled boxers, and the rest are fucking garbage. And I have to say that anybody that likes watching 2 women smack the shit out of each other needs to have a look at themselves.
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    it is very dangerous to go into a boxing ring with high testosterone levels
    i don't disagree with your statement but what were their levels compared to their peers, if you have that information?
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Isn't high testosterone a sign of doping?
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    it is very dangerous to go into a boxing ring with high testosterone levels
    i don't disagree with your statement but what were their levels compared to their peers, if you have that information?
    I’m afraid I don’t. But they were high enough to fail the AIBA Gender test, so they must be raised at the very least.
    My point being that Clarity and consistency is needed with all bodies.
    And my major point being ban Women’s Boxing completely.
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    I say, if there is nothing to hide from the Algerian and Taiwanese boxers, then they should allow the IBA to release their medical testing history as to why they were banned from competing by the IBA and let the IOC make further determination.

    This would settle this in the court of the public, if you ask me. May not serve any of the organisations who come out with egg on their faces for being wrong, but it would settle the matter from our perspective.

    I don't trust this woke-sissy-gay agenda. They would go to no ends to prove their point. I also understand the IBA is a corrupt organisation that is headed by gangsters. We need resolution to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    I say, if there is nothing to hide from the Algerian and Taiwanese boxers, then they should allow the IBA to release their medical testing history as to why they were banned from competing by the IBA and let the IOC make further determination.

    This would settle this in the court of the public, if you ask me. May not serve any of the organisations who come out with egg on their faces for being wrong, but it would settle the matter from our perspective.

    I don't trust this woke-sissy-gay agenda. They would go to no ends to prove their point. I also understand the IBA is a corrupt organisation that is headed by gangsters. We need resolution to this.


    There's a thread on this already, ykda. Maybe you can ask the mods to merge them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    I say, if there is nothing to hide from the Algerian and Taiwanese boxers, then they should allow the IBA to release their medical testing history as to why they were banned from competing by the IBA and let the IOC make further determination.

    This would settle this in the court of the public, if you ask me. May not serve any of the organisations who come out with egg on their faces for being wrong, but it would settle the matter from our perspective.

    I don't trust this woke-sissy-gay agenda. They would go to no ends to prove their point. I also understand the IBA is a corrupt organisation that is headed by gangsters. We need resolution to this.


    There's a thread on this already, ykda. Maybe you can ask the mods to merge them.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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