Thread: Canelo beats Benevidez.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

He said it.
End of story.

i know you struggle with comprehension, master said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter"

so nothing from around that time?

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by TitoFan

He said it.
End of story.

i know you struggle with comprehension, master said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter"

so nothing from around that time?

At least I don't struggle with fanboyism.
I'm not playing your "splitting hairs" game with you.
Point being made here is that Canelo is a chickenshit coward who makes up excuses to not fight the people in front of him that could pose a danger to his manufactured legacy. He very much did say he didn't fight fellow Mexicans as an excuse to duck the likes of Benavidez. But he had no such convictions when facing the mummy JCC Jr, and the limited Munguia.

Keep asking your dumbass questions.
Doesn't change a damn thing.

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

Originally Posted by TIC

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

Let me be brutally frank here. Not once have I ever claimed Canelo won't go down as a boxing great. He's put in his time... he's won his big fights.

My contention with him has always been the way he carefully constructed his career. No need to go into specifics here. I've said all this a thousand times.

His hype has always exceeded his substance. He has ducked... he has marinated... he has stacked the deck... he has done everything except put himself out there fearlessly and let the chips fall where they may.

Even fellow Mexicans can't stand the dude.

He's everything that is wrong with boxing.

That he unified at 168... sure. He'll always be remembered as a great 168.

Of course, he benefitted from a group of British boxers to whom he will always be indebted.

TO YOU... he has a great legacy. To me he's just an overly hyped manufactured diva, who carefully picked and chose his opponents at HIS timing. He had the WBC and many judges in his pocket.

When he's gone... good riddance.

Originally Posted by TIC

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

I see you fit the hardcore Canelo fan?

I’m not hating on Canelo, I just want to see the best fights.

Canelo should have fought DB and it’s definitely the biggest duck of his career.

Canelo knows he can’t go to 175 as he gets destroyed by Bivol again.

Expect Canelo to wait until the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner moves up or Beterbiev retires..then Canelo moves to 175 around 35 in a weaker division and probably fights Yarde!

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

Let me be brutally frank here. Not once have I ever claimed Canelo won't go down as a boxing great. He's put in his time... he's won his big fights.

My contention with him has always been the way he carefully constructed his career. No need to go into specifics here. I've said all this a thousand times.

His hype has always exceeded his substance. He has ducked... he has marinated... he has stacked the deck... he has done everything except put himself out there fearlessly and let the chips fall where they may.

Even fellow Mexicans can't stand the dude.

He's everything that is wrong with boxing.

That he unified at 168... sure. He'll always be remembered as a great 168.

Of course, he benefitted from a group of British boxers to whom he will always be indebted.

TO YOU... he has a great legacy. To me he's just an overly hyped manufactured diva, who carefully picked and chose his opponents at HIS timing. He had the WBC and many judges in his pocket.

When he's gone... good riddance.

Canelo will be a hall of famer.

No doubt.

Just a shame he ducked DB, took PEDS and his flaws will always be exposed by quality fighters

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by TIC

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

I see you fit the hardcore Canelo fan?

I’m not hating on Canelo, I just want to see the best fights.

Canelo should have fought DB and it’s definitely the biggest duck of his career.

Canelo knows he can’t go to 175 as he gets destroyed by Bivol again.

Expect Canelo to wait until the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner moves up or Beterbiev retires..then Canelo moves to 175 around 35 in a weaker division and probably fights Yarde!

i'm a hardcore boxing fan. i want to see the best fights as well. i would have liked him to fight david b as well, i also would have liked him to fight david morrell, william scull & christian mbilli. i think canelo avoided david b after he unified super middle but not because he was scared, i just think he didn't need him & after team david b's behavior & lies just didn't want to give him a payday after a certain point. i don't think canelo should be fighting above super middle, if he wasn't such a tank he would probably be better suited to middle. caneo did ofer dmitry the same terms for a rematch but dmitry turned it down, there was no counter offer from dmitry's team or any offer from his side to fight at super middle. canelo has just been reaping the rewards from his career since cementing his legacy by unifying super middle

Originally Posted by TitoFan

My contention with him has always been the way he carefully constructed his career.
His hype has always exceeded his substance. He has ducked... he has marinated... he has stacked the deck... he has done everything except put himself out there fearlessly and let the chips fall where they may.

his hype may have exceeded his substance. he didn't duck austin trout, floyd mayweather jr, erislandy lara, ggg, danny jacobs, callum, billy joe, caleb or dmitry & i'd like to see what sort of deck stacking you claim he did against any of them. he fought ggg within two years of moving to middleweight & before many others did, felix sturm, jcc jr, serio martinez, miguel cotto, billy joe saunders. you thought ggg won the first fight, canelo not only fought him he also went straight back into an immediate rematch with him

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Even fellow Mexicans can't stand the dude.

speaking for others again?

Originally Posted by TitoFan

He's everything that is wrong with boxing.

there is a lot more wrong than canelo with boxing

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Of course, he benefitted from a group of British boxers to whom he will always be indebted.

why didn't david b clean out this group of british boxers?

Originally Posted by TitoFan

TO YOU... he has a great legacy. To me he's just an overly hyped manufactured diva, who carefully picked and chose his opponents at HIS timing. He had the WBC and many judges in his pocket.

canelo has had a very good career & fought a who's who of this era. he didn't always carefully pick & choose his opponents at his timing. have you got any proof canelo had the wbc & judges in his pocket?

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TIC

there's no splitting hairs. master clearly said "before Canelo.conquered the division? I am sure Saul was saying at the time he would not face a Mexican fighter". you can't bring yourself to admit that canelo didn't say that before he conquered the division. you & i both know canelo cemented his legacy by unifying the division five weight classes above where he began

Let me be brutally frank here. Not once have I ever claimed Canelo won't go down as a boxing great. He's put in his time... he's won his big fights.

My contention with him has always been the way he carefully constructed his career. No need to go into specifics here. I've said all this a thousand times.

His hype has always exceeded his substance. He has ducked... he has marinated... he has stacked the deck... he has done everything except put himself out there fearlessly and let the chips fall where they may.

Even fellow Mexicans can't stand the dude.

He's everything that is wrong with boxing.

That he unified at 168... sure. He'll always be remembered as a great 168.

Of course, he benefitted from a group of British boxers to whom he will always be indebted.

TO YOU... he has a great legacy. To me he's just an overly hyped manufactured diva, who carefully picked and chose his opponents at HIS timing. He had the WBC and many judges in his pocket.

When he's gone... good riddance.

Canelo will be a hall of famer.

No doubt.

Just a shame he ducked DB, took PEDS and his flaws will always be exposed by quality fighters

Arturo Gatti is a HOFer also. Doesn't always mean a hell of a lot. More of a popularity contest.

His blatant duck of DB is what everyone notices... but not everyone remembers how he shamelessly marinated, avoided, or cherry-picked his way around certain fighters.

He's also a convicted cheater, although his slap on the wrist didn't amount to jackshit.

A manufactured diva. That's how many will remember him.

Some legacy...

Why do Canelo nut huggers never praise his same day weight politicking vs already heavy underdog Angulo among his greatness. Now that was some genuine BS and the type of stacking that pisses fans off. The key is the fact that Canelo is already and has been defending in hindsight. Majority of the fans etc. are in full reflection mode and shining up decade's old wins. The days of hyping and promoting what he is actually doing and where he is going have pretty much concluded. Because any fair-minded individual simply cannot.