Thread: Margarito v Clottey confirmed for December 2.

It’s Official: Margarito Takes on Clottey on December 2
Article by German Villasenor (Sep 13, 2006)

“It’s official, Joshua Clottey will be Antonio's next opponent, on Saturday, December 2nd,” Antonio Margarito's manager, Sergio Diaz, told Maxboxing.com on Tuesday afternoon.

“After looking at all our current options, and seeing how Floyd (Mayweather) avoided Tony at all costs, first by waiting for (Oscar) De La Hoya, then (Ricky) Hatton, (Cory) Spinks and so on, we and Top Rank decided to move forward.”

Margarito who is coming off three impressive victories in the gruesome, ear ripping late rounds stoppage over Sebastian Lujan, the destruction of Kermit Cintron, and a one round blowout of still dangerous Manuel ''Shotgun'' Gomez, will be making his second career appearance at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, with the co-feature being WBO super lightweight champion Miguel Cotto defending his crown against TBA in the Top Rank-promoted / Showtime-televised double header.

''We opted for Clottey because he is the highest available contender that is easy to deal with, as he just recently signed with Top Rank.'' said Diaz. ''Although Paul Williams is currently the number one contender, he is asking for too much money, and he essentially outpriced himself. Paul will become Antonio's mandatory next month, and Top Rank will be have to deal with his people again and try to reach an agreement. If they don't, then the match will go to purse bid. I really don't believe Paul would want this to happen, as he might get paid less than Top Rank's initial offer. Mosley is the number two ranked fighter in the WBO. But with all the hatred between Top Rank and Golden Boy, this is a fight that probably will not happen".

"Clottey wasn't the fighter we were hoping to fight, but considering the short list of possible opponents, we felt he was the best,” continued Diaz. “We haven't had the best of luck with regards to Tony's activity in the ring or being able to get that big fight, but we have faith that 2007 will be a big year for Antonio and Top Rank.”

A tough Ghanaian, Clottey (29-1, 18 KOs), who is coming off a majority decision win over Richard Gutierrez last month, will not be a walk in the park, as his style has posed problems for everyone he has faced. His only loss is a controversial DQ against reigning WBC welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir in a fight which by all reports, he (Clottey) was clearly winning.

Margarito (33-4, 24 KOs) will now have to focus on Clottey, knowing that any setback at this point will let many of the named fighters who have been targeted by Team Margarito off the hook.

Clottey is also ranked # 4 by the WBC and # 6 by the IBF.
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This is going to be a very very tough fight for Tony against this hard nosed,rough house,reasonably skilled Ghanian. Clottey is good at countering and I can envisage him having his moments during the fight but I think Tony will come through. It will be very tough,this guy was schooling Baldo before he was dqed,he's very tough. He also has a good jab and good body work,this will be a great great fight!

Very tough fight for Tony but i think he will come through and stop Clottey late.

hopefully if Tony gets the win, people wont talk so much shit, cause Clottey is more than just a game opponant

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully if Tony gets the win, people wont talk so much S***, cause Clottey is more than just a game opponant

clottey is on par with cintron, imo (dont forget that cintron was coming off a long period of inactivity, and hand surgery when he fought margarito)

i will watch this fight, for sure. but clottey isnt the big fight that all the margaritities are going to be able to run their mouths about

the ultimate barometer in the ww division is zab judah, imo

why? if Zab Judah has gotten his ass battered already twice in a row, and is making plans to fight Camacho "Drum Sticks For Legs" Jr.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

why? if Zab Judah has gotten his a** battered already twice in a row, and is making plans to fight Camacho "Drum Sticks For Legs" Jr.

camacho is nothing more than a confidence booster for judah.

zab is gonna look real good in that fight.

as far as his last two fights being losses, pbf is the best fighter in the game at this time and baldomir hasnt lost in 4ever (don't forget, baldomir beat clottey)

zab will be back

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

Definitely disagree on Hatton. But the main point here is that Clottey isn't on that list. And that's who Margarito's fighting. Clottey's a step up for Margarito, but he's not that great. He looked like shit in his last fight.

In my humble opinion,Clottey is a very very good fighter who was beating the shat out of current champ Baldo unitl he was dqed and had he not been,he would have won a wiiiiide UD. He is very skilled and although he never looked good in his last fight,his other performances would tell me he is a good fighter.

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Silly points,Zab is seasoned.............................as seen by his low blow at Baldo at the touch up at the beginning of the fight or his ability to run after getting hit by a half decent puncher....

Cotto has to fight the perfect fight to beat Zab,that is probably the worst point I have seen.

Hatton would have no chance in hell,that's got to be a joke and I'm not even a big Hatton fan. Zab can't take pressure,Hatton is ALL ABOUT pressure whether it be holding or not.

Quintana is not green at all,he looked very wise and skillfull to avoid the big banging Julio for 12 rounds.

Margarito has offered to fight Judah numerous times,Judah said he would fight the winner of Cintron and Margarito(I posted the link myself),glass jaw v power punching machine,let me see who wins that.....

You're just defending Zab becuase Floyd fought a guy who had 3 losses in 6 fights.... and the point about Santos is ridiculous,if Margarito went up again to fight his stylistic nightmare, and won,what would it prove? 154 is not a matter of significance here,Tony is not going up, end of.

Originally Posted by shza

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

Definitely disagree on Hatton. But the main point here is that Clottey isn't on that list. And that's who Margarito's fighting. Clottey's a step up for Margarito, but he's not that great. He looked like shit in his last fight.

You just say that because you dislike Hatton's style I respect your opion and Clottey did not look good at all but when has Zab ever looked good? Spinks 2 and........Pineda?Tszyu?Spinks1?Mayweather? Fact is he has had many shots at the big time and failed.

Originally Posted by El Gamo

In my humble opinion,Clottey is a very very good fighter who was beating the shat out of current champ Baldo unitl he was dqed and had he not been,he would have won a wiiiiide UD. He is very skilled and although he never looked good in his last fight,his other performances would tell me he is a good fighter.

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Silly points,Zab is seasoned.............................as seen by his low blow at Baldo at the touch up at the beginning of the fight or his ability to run after getting hit by a half decent puncher....

Cotto has to fight the perfect fight to beat Zab,that is probably the worst point I have seen.

Hatton would have no chance in hell,that's got to be a joke and I'm not even a big Hatton fan. Zab can't take pressure,Hatton is ALL ABOUT pressure whether it be holding or not.

Quintana is not green at all,he looked very wise and skillfull to avoid the big banging Julio for 12 rounds.

Margarito has offered to fight Judah numerous times,Judah said he would fight the winner of Cintron and Margarito(I posted the link myself),glass jaw v power punching machine,let me see who wins that.....

You're just defending Zab becuase Floyd fought a guy who had 3 losses in 6 fights.... and the point about Santos is ridiculous,if Margarito went up again to fight his stylistic nightmare, and won,what would it prove? 154 is not a matter of significance here,Tony is not going up, end of.

once again, youre margarito lovin is clouding your knowledge of the sport.

yes, zab IS seasoned. as in hes a former LINEAR welterweight champion

as far as cotto, ive seen him fight a couple different ways. brawler cotto gets his ass kicked, he gets rocked by good shots (why do you think hbo has been matching him with malignaggi and branco his last couple fights........its his chin ) but the hard punching boxer cotto may beat zab

stop with hatton, he hates southpaws............ zab would wreck him at 147

yes, quintana looked great against a solid 21 year old prospect in julio........but julio isnt zab judah

and on to margarito, and santos being his stylistic nightmare.....please
santos isnt anybodys stylistc nightmare.........hes a below average fighter who beat the hype machine, and all of the margaritites start making excuses

santos is inferior to zab judah at EVERYTHING........

sorry to shred another one of your weak ass posts, but it had to be done

Originally Posted by El Gamo

In my humble opinion,Clottey is a very very good fighter who was beating the shat out of current champ Baldo unitl he was dqed and had he not been,he would have won a wiiiiide UD. He is very skilled and although he never looked good in his last fight,his other performances would tell me he is a good fighter.

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Silly points,Zab is seasoned.............................as seen by his low blow at Baldo at the touch up at the beginning of the fight or his ability to run after getting hit by a half decent puncher....

Cotto has to fight the perfect fight to beat Zab,that is probably the worst point I have seen.

Hatton would have no chance in hell,that's got to be a joke and I'm not even a big Hatton fan. Zab can't take pressure,Hatton is ALL ABOUT pressure whether it be holding or not.

Quintana is not green at all,he looked very wise and skillfull to avoid the big banging Julio for 12 rounds.

Margarito has offered to fight Judah numerous times,Judah said he would fight the winner of Cintron and Margarito(I posted the link myself),glass jaw v power punching machine,let me see who wins that.....

You're just defending Zab becuase Floyd fought a guy who had 3 losses in 6 fights.... and the point about Santos is ridiculous,if Margarito went up again to fight his stylistic nightmare, and won,what would it prove? 154 is not a matter of significance here,Tony is not going up, end of.

HAH, Margaritos "stylistic nightmare" was Santos... Yeah, what his style being that he was bigger than Toney and he could actually fight back?? And as for Judah vs Margarito, what's ridiculous is how you label it.... Glass jaw vs power punching machine.... Like that's all there is to it.. All you can even say about Tony is that he's a power punching machine... He is also a very poor boxer, he is slow, he has 0 defence, has never fought anyone fast or skilled, terrible foot work and foot speed... Zab doesn't have any of those flaws... Tony's only advantages would be chin and power. Tony will be exposed any time he ever steps up to the top level. If he actually fought where he belonged at 154 he couldn't beat anyone.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by El Gamo

In my humble opinion,Clottey is a very very good fighter who was beating the shat out of current champ Baldo unitl he was dqed and had he not been,he would have won a wiiiiide UD. He is very skilled and although he never looked good in his last fight,his other performances would tell me he is a good fighter.

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Silly points,Zab is seasoned.............................as seen by his low blow at Baldo at the touch up at the beginning of the fight or his ability to run after getting hit by a half decent puncher....

Cotto has to fight the perfect fight to beat Zab,that is probably the worst point I have seen.

Hatton would have no chance in hell,that's got to be a joke and I'm not even a big Hatton fan. Zab can't take pressure,Hatton is ALL ABOUT pressure whether it be holding or not.

Quintana is not green at all,he looked very wise and skillfull to avoid the big banging Julio for 12 rounds.

Margarito has offered to fight Judah numerous times,Judah said he would fight the winner of Cintron and Margarito(I posted the link myself),glass jaw v power punching machine,let me see who wins that.....

You're just defending Zab becuase Floyd fought a guy who had 3 losses in 6 fights.... and the point about Santos is ridiculous,if Margarito went up again to fight his stylistic nightmare, and won,what would it prove? 154 is not a matter of significance here,Tony is not going up, end of.

HAH, Margaritos "stylistic nightmare" was Santos... Yeah, what his style being that he was bigger than Toney and he could actually fight back?? And as for Judah vs Margarito, what's ridiculous is how you label it.... Glass jaw vs power punching machine.... Like that's all there is to it.. All you can even say about Tony is that he's a power punching machine... He is also a very poor boxer, he is slow, he has 0 defence, has never fought anyone fast or skilled, terrible foot work and foot speed... Zab doesn't have any of those flaws... Tony's only advantages would be chin and power. Tony will be exposed any time he ever steps up to the top level. If he actually fought where he belonged at 154 he couldn't beat anyone.

Your points go out of the window when you say if he actually fought where he belonged. What a pile of bollocks,Tony weights 147 with no problems,he has to beef up to 154......So B Hop should have fought at light heavyweight all this time?

Zab Judah can't take a punch,Margarito has been hit by way stronger fighters. Zab is super skilful,infintely more so than bALDOMIR,WHAT HAPPENED THERE? Zab is not skillfull enough to evade contact all the time,Margarito is effective at cutting off the ring. 0 defence,how may times did Cintron catch him? Slow? Faster than Baldo. Terrible footwork,fair enough and he can be sloppy at times but what is Zab going to do? He's not good enopugh to run all the way,he does not have the powert ot hurt Tony nor the chin,and he has 0000000 HEART AND DETERMINATION.

As for Santos,I've told you the same fooking thing over and over,most at ringside including Puerto Rican fans had Santos losing by 1,it was in his backyard and if he did not fight well,he would not get any big money matches(as he was told by is promoters) and he weight at least 175 pounds. Maargarito was also coming on strong,although I still feel had the fight continued,Tony would have won.

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by shza

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

Definitely disagree on Hatton. But the main point here is that Clottey isn't on that list. And that's who Margarito's fighting. Clottey's a step up for Margarito, but he's not that great. He looked like shit in his last fight.

You just say that because you dislike Hatton's style I respect your opion and Clottey did not look good at all but when has Zab ever looked good? Spinks 2 and........Pineda?Tszyu?Spinks1?Mayweather? Fact is he has had many shots at the big time and failed.

Haha. CC Gamo. True that I dislike Hatton's style. But-- I also think that, while Zab has some trouble with come-forward brawlers, as you point out, Hatton has serious trouble with slick, skilled boxers, especially southpaws (see, e.g., Collazo). So I don't know--maybe they'd both just look terrible and it would end in a movie-style double kayo (a result I wouldn't mind seeing). But I'd give Zab the edge if he was at all focused. He's way too fast for Hatton (not that it helped him against the even slower Baldomir). Anyway, I'm no fan of Zab and am not here to defend him. True that he's been given more chances than most and failed more than half the time. He actually did look pretty good against Mayweather though, which most fighters don't.

I just want to see Margarito vs. Williams. I will concede that I think Clottey could be the tougher opponent (Williams too green, not enough defense), but I think Margarito-Williams would be a total burner definitely ending in a KO, and would do more to amp up Margarito's rep.