Thread: Its very rare that a Heavyweight beats a 'great' in their prime

There either old, have high milage, outta their best weight class or most times a combination of both.

Name one Heavyweight champ this dosent apply to.

Except George Foreman v Joe Fraizer

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Name one Heavyweight champ this dosent apply to.

Except George Foreman v Joe Fraizer

Ali-frazier 2

Ali- Foreman

Ali- patterson twice (if you wanna go that far)

Mike Tyson vs Michael Spinks

Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman

Okay the Foreman - Ali one shut me up


But the rest of em

Spinks? Patterson?

Hello

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Okay the Foreman - Ali one shut me up


But the rest of em

Spinks? Patterson?

Hello

hey i was saying if you really wanted to stretch things.

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Okay the Foreman - Ali one shut me up


But the rest of em

Spinks? Patterson?

Hello

Spinks was considered a great after beating Holmes twice even though imo he lost both still was a great achievement.

How about Tunney vs Dempsey ??

Or Sonny Liston beating Patterson ??

Michael Spinks....

I cant get over that one

Sory bruv, i know he beat an over the hill Holmes but seriously, those 'wins' in no whay make him a great heavyweight



Dempsey was past it. Seriously, that fight was after a long spell of innactivity/ non title exhibitions.

Liston beating Patterson never had a wow factor to it. Infact Paterson (God rest his soul) never had a wow factor period. (In hind sight of course) & IMO is not a great.


Ali Fraizer 1 was a joke. If youve ever actually watched the fight (not just the knockdown) you'll see what i mean.
He was rusty, slow, out of shape and generally abismall...

From that point on, the Ali-Fraizer trilogy involved one or two fighters who just weren't quite the force they once was.








Of cousre im only doing this in response to the 'Lewis never beat a gerat Jibe' to simply highlight that in the Heavyweight division its apparent that its incredibly rare, in hindsight of course, to find a Championship Match between two touted greats were both men were seen to be in thier prime.

Once again, the only one i can think of is Foreman v Fraizer.

Its a shame because i think Vitali was about two punches and two years away from doing it.

I guess my suggestions wern't very good then

No they wasn't.

Now remove yourself from my vision of total correctness (spelling not applicable) or i will be forced to write an even longer reply

How can Ali be past it,when he beats Foreman a year after Frazier beat him?
And how can Frazier be past it when Ali beats him a year after the Foreman fight?

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

No they wasn't.

Now remove yourself from my vision of total correctness (spelling not applicable) or i will be forced to write an even longer reply

Thanks lol

Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard


Hey he might not of been the best but he still beat Jack Johnson.

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

How can Ali be past it,when he beats Foreman a year after Frazier beat him?
And how can Frazier be past it when Ali beats him a year after the Frazier fight?

Sorry, say that again

No hang on, i get it, Basically.....

































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