Man, its one thing to ALLEGEDLY have P4P greats duck you, like Ray Robinson, Billy Conn and Henry Armstrong. But how good does one have to be to have rough, tough, "take on any comer" guys like Lamotta, Graziano and Zale duck you?

I know he beat Archie Moore, but I've never seen any of his fights. How good was this guy, and why did the greats of that time want nothing to do with him?