Thread: I Dont Blame Joe For Gloating

Roy dodged him for forever,and everyone knows it. It must have felt nice to stick it his kisser.

It was a little too much for my liking though. I find it more entertaining to see him throw more punches rather than goofing off every 30 seconds or so. A few times I could understand, he wants to entertain after all. But it became a bit repetitive.

I did want to see him push Jones to the limits and try and stop him, so that might have a bit to do with my frustration at the excessive showboating.

Unless it is a one sided demolishen job, showboating is normally the sign of a bad fight and a frustrated fighter trying to get the crowd into the fight

Originally Posted by miles

It was a little too much for my liking though. I find it more entertaining to see him throw more punches rather than goofing off every 30 seconds or so. A few times I could understand, he wants to entertain after all. But it became a bit repetitive.

I did want to see him push Jones to the limits and try and stop him, so that might have a bit to do with my frustration at the excessive showboating.

A legit point,mine was Roy dodged him for so long,I cant really blame Joe for doing a little, "Oh who's bad now?" in there. Id have done it if it was me. I probably wouldnt have been able to help myself

Thing is when Roy would do it, it came across as a skill and would just amaze you. Bernard as well against Pavlik with his bolo punching. Even Emanuel Augustus had us in fits last night with his showboating because it was comedic...but JC comes across as the most unlikable arrogant prick when he showboats.

But hey, maybe that's just me...

Originally Posted by Althugz

Thing is when Roy would do it, it came across as a skill and would just amaze you. Bernard as well against Pavlik with his bolo punching. Even Emanuel Augustus had us in fits last night with his showboating because it was comedic...but JC comes across as the most unlikable arrogant prick when he showboats.

But hey, maybe that's just me...

I think it really depends if you like the fighter or not.

I'm a massive Calzaghe fan and so thought it was awesome doing to Jones what Jones has done to so many other fighters over the years.

I also don't think Jones is nearly as shot as people say.

It honestly wouldn't suprise me if he got a fight with Hopkins next and won a decision.

Hopkins isn't a relentlessly punching, fast paced, physical fighter in the way Calzaghe is and the slower pace might suit Roy.

Him and Hopkins in a rematch I still really want to see, and I still think Roy would have a chance of winning that fight, although I'd put Hopkins as favourite obviously.

Thanks for the avatar pic by the way, it's a real treat

Originally Posted by Althugz

but JC comes across as the most unlikable arrogant prick when he showboats.

Only because Joe is still winning when hes doing it.

A fighter moving up a weight to fight established, class fighters in that weight and completely box their ears off can do what he wants.

If Bernard and Roy didnt like it, maybe they should have tried beating him for it but they couldnt, Joe was too good for em.

Now, Roy doing it to a fighter moving up 2 weights, coming off a loss and 3 years out is a bit tedious

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Originally Posted by miles

It was a little too much for my liking though. I find it more entertaining to see him throw more punches rather than goofing off every 30 seconds or so. A few times I could understand, he wants to entertain after all. But it became a bit repetitive.

I did want to see him push Jones to the limits and try and stop him, so that might have a bit to do with my frustration at the excessive showboating.

A legit point,mine was Roy dodged him for so long,I cant really blame Joe for doing a little, "Oh who's bad now?" in there. Id have done it if it was me. I probably wouldnt have been able to help myself

Yeah because beating someone after he's clearly shot is true vindication -.-;

Had it been a cocky American doing it then people wouldn't question it. Cos it's a pasty guy from rainy Wales people are upset.
Tc

Originally Posted by Sweet_T

Had it been a cocky American doing it then people wouldn't question it. Cos it's a pasty guy from rainy Wales people are upset.
Tc

Yeah Joe gave as good as he got

If you notice Jones was the one who started the taunting . he had Joe down and was winding his punches up ( when he thought he wa sin control ) but in round 2 Joe wasnt gonna let anyone do that to him and when he realised he was far superior to Jones he started oing it back to him but much worse.

Ok he may have over done it but IMO Joe was just showing that he can give Jones every chance yet still make it look easy

Originally Posted by intoccabile

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Originally Posted by miles

It was a little too much for my liking though. I find it more entertaining to see him throw more punches rather than goofing off every 30 seconds or so. A few times I could understand, he wants to entertain after all. But it became a bit repetitive.

I did want to see him push Jones to the limits and try and stop him, so that might have a bit to do with my frustration at the excessive showboating.

A legit point,mine was Roy dodged him for so long,I cant really blame Joe for doing a little, "Oh who's bad now?" in there. Id have done it if it was me. I probably wouldnt have been able to help myself

Yeah because beating someone after he's clearly shot is true vindication -.-;

I thought you were telling us last week that Jones was going to win?

And as far as all the people complaining about Joe showboating, I'm afraid it's just your tough fucking luck. Jones made a career of doing stuff like that when he was defending his title against firemen and sanitation workers so it was fitting that somebody eventually did it back to him. That was definitely the first time that he's been outclowned in a ring.

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Roy dodged him for forever,and everyone knows it. It must have felt nice to stick it his kisser.

Roy dodged him huh? Which is why it took Joe 44 fights to make his way over to the US to fight the more famous fighters like Hopkins and Jones.

Joe Calzaghe is a good fighter and I am taking nothing away from what he has accomplished but last nights win over Roy was nothing bigger than his win over a shot Chris Eubank.

Originally Posted by Lyle

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Roy dodged him for forever,and everyone knows it. It must have felt nice to stick it his kisser.

Roy dodged him huh? Which is why it took Joe 44 fights to make his way over to the US to fight the more famous fighters like Hopkins and Jones.

Joe Calzaghe is a good fighter and I am taking nothing away from what he has accomplished but last nights win over Roy was nothing bigger than his win over a shot Chris Eubank.

If you watch it was Roy who started the showboating. It was a little too much from Joe but i don't think it was meant as disrespectful. No worse than Jones carrying a fighter and continually showboating ala Richard Hall.

Originally Posted by Lyle

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Roy dodged him for forever,and everyone knows it. It must have felt nice to stick it his kisser.

Roy dodged him huh? Which is why it took Joe 44 fights to make his way over to the US to fight the more famous fighters like Hopkins and Jones.

Joe Calzaghe is a good fighter and I am taking nothing away from what he has accomplished but last nights win over Roy was nothing bigger than his win over a shot Chris Eubank.

Surely one of them could have come over to the UK? The Hopkins fight was done only for Hopkins to change his mind and demand double. Not Joe's fault.

Still last nights fight doesn't tell me anything i didn't already know. Would have been a much better fight about 7 years ago.

IMO Joe's in that bracket along with Toney/Hopkins/Jones.

Why should Hopkins or Jones go to England..."oh we have bigger arenas"

Which is why nobody ever wants to go to Madison Square Garden or Cesar's Palace to fight...they all are dying to get into M.E.N or Millenium Stadium to fight Joe Calzaghe infront of a bunch of soccer hooligans.


The US is where the money is, it's more fair than England or Europe, and it's where the best fighters are. Joe never went to 160 or 175 to chase after Roy or Bernard either....both guys were well established at their respective weight classes and fought mandatories. If Joe wanted the fights earlier he could have made them and everyone knows that.