Thread: Does Frank Warren ever give it a rest one bitter man!!

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WRITING a sports column is about giving your opinion — and I’m paid to give my honestly held views.


When I write about Ricky Hatton, Joe Calzaghe or other boxers, it’s because they are in the news — or I’m answering criticisms.

It’s not about sour grapes, I’m just telling it how I see it — and I’ve never been sued.

This week, the news was Ricky Hatton’s fight. And he looked good in Las Vegas — where he lost to Floyd Mayweather Jnr — when he stopped Paulie Malignaggi.

Hatton said: “I feel like I’ve come back to the scene of the crime and destroyed the evidence.”

Problem was he wasn’t confronting the same mugger. Malignaggi wasn’t in the same class as Mayweather — and, to be kind to him, he was very, very ordinary.

I’m not sure if against quality opposition Hatton is a 12-round fighter any more. We didn’t find out if he is against Malignaggi.

If Hatton had been facing someone firing back and more of a test, we would have discovered if his lifestyle has caught up with him and if his powers are waning.

The light-welter division was strong but these days it’s very average. Even his new trainer, Floyd Mayweather Snr, tells Hatton he is boozing too much and his lifestyle is going to catch up with him.

It’s been a problem for years. I met Ricky with ITV commentator John Rawling and told him he had to stop the bingeing but our words of advice fell on deaf ears.

Saying he should quit the drink is not me criticising Hatton unfairly — everyone in boxing believes he should give it up.

Drinking heavily between fights is not the message to send out to young fighters.

In football, can you imagine Alex Ferguson allowing Wayne Rooney to go on the lash for weeks on end? This week, Hatton, who is now effectively promoting himself, said of his future: “We’re working with Golden Boy in America and we may do some shows with Frank Maloney, who is pal of mine.

“In the past I feel promoters have not done the right thing by me so we felt the need to go out on a limb ourselves and it is one of the best things I have done.”

Yet the trouble he got from me was banking £7.5million.

My philosophy is to make fighters as much money as possible while nurturing them and picking the right moments and opponents for them to fight for titles.

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That’s what I did with Hatton, making him a multi-millionaire. If his career had ended after he beat Kostya Tszyu — his final outing under my promotional banner — he couldn’t have complained.

Millions in the bank, a world title and the scalp of one of the modern greats on his record — to me that reads like a job well done by both me and Ricky.

What’s his next move? He’ll probably meet the winner of Oscar De La Hoya or Manny Pacquiao. And it should be Oscar as a good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un.

De La Hoya will be keen. Now Mayweather is out of the picture, he hasn’t got many other options.

Taking the fight will be tough for Ricky — he says himself that he is not a natural welterweight, while De La Hoya has fought as high as middleweight and is a natural light-middleweight.

But it will still be huge and British fans will turn out for it.

• Joe Calzaghe banked £17m from me but insisted that he could make more by fighting Roy Jones Jr as a free agent.

But HBO haven’t released the PPV figures as they were so low and 3,000 tickets were given away to bolster the crowd.

Calzaghe’s purse will fall short of what he wanted. But that’s promoting, it’s not all upside...


EVERY FUCKING WEEK HE GOES ON ABOUT HOW MUCH HATTON HAS MADE FROM HIM GET OVER IT FRANK HES GONE!!! AND NOW JOE HAS FOLLWED HIM!!!

Also £17 million fr Joe i find that hard to believe. Considering he only made over £1 million in two fights for Franky in the Kessler and Hopkins fights?

Frank Warren writes for The Sun. Enough said.

He's always been a bit of a dick. Unlikely to change anytime soon.

If Frank was doing so well for his fighters,he'd still have them

Its funny how Warren call Paulie an ordinary fighter lol , before Kostya , Ricky was fighting total shit under Warren .

If Warren was still Hattons promoter , last weekend he would have be fighting Paulies little sister not Paulie himself.

It's funny - but I agree with almost everything he says.

We really don't know how good Hatton is at the moment - because Paulie is SHITHOUSE. He had absolutely nothing in his arsenal to phase Ricky, except for his exceptional clinching, at which he is a pound for pound great.

His next fight will probably be against the winner of DLH-Pac and he'd be a heavy underdog against Oscar and a slight favourite against Pac IMO.

Warren does not mention how much money he made from them does he.

Also he is bitter because of the money he is loosing out if they were still with him.

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Originally Posted by Master

Warren does not mention how much money he made from them does he.

Also he is bitter because of the money he is loosing out if they were still with him.

He made a loss on the Kessler fight, and makes much less than fighters even if the night's a succes, though of course a promoters career is much longer than a fighters'.

I think he's OK to have a go, after all when Ricky and Joe say stuff like they were held back for years.

He set up Ricky's career perfectly, and I've said it before. He got the No.1 light Welter to go to fucking Manchester with an English ref at the PERFECT time in both guys careers to favour Ricky, the single win that he's been riding on since. Would Ricky have preferred to be thrown in with Judah in 2001 when he was still green and set his career back like another certain Englishman?

Originally Posted by Bomp

Originally Posted by Master

Warren does not mention how much money he made from them does he.

Also he is bitter because of the money he is loosing out if they were still with him.

He made a loss on the Kessler fight, and makes much less than fighters even if the night's a succes, though of course a promoters career is much longer than a fighters'.

I think he's OK to have a go, after all when Ricky and Joe say stuff like they were held back for years.

He set up Ricky's career perfectly, and I've said it before. He got the No.1 light Welter to go to fucking Manchester with an English ref at the PERFECT time in both guys careers to favour Ricky, the single win that he's been riding on since. Would Ricky have preferred to be thrown in with Judah in 2001 when he was still green and set his career back like another certain Englishman?

The thing is mate he goes on about Ricky's earanings nearly everyweek, this split is coming up for for four years, i know there is two sides to every story, but Frank did do a good job for Ricky, but lets not forget Ricky took a 25/75 split in Kostas favour for that fight, so wasnt all Frankys doing, Warren fed Hatton to many bums imo, he takes a dig at Calzaghe and Hatton an every oppurtunity, hes a muppet boxing is a short career. Say Ricky and Joe lost there big fights what would Franky do? Fuck them off it works both ways, also funny how Frank says Joe made a mistake with the RJJ fight well i think Joe has $8-$10 million reasons why it wasnt a mistake.

How much money do you think Joe and Ricky made this man?? Hes just bitter as he has no money makers anymore, the three biggest stars in the uk are not under his guidance so what does that tell you? As Trainer Monkey said he cant be all that as these guys wouldnt have fucked him off.

if your from the uk you'll know franks always singing his own praise and as soon as a fighter leaves him he says there not that good.............or his classic line just before a ex boxer of his is due to have a big fight " i lined up this fight for him a year ago but he didn't want it... i beleave he would have won it when i was his promoter but cant see him pulling it of now "

some fighters stay with him upto a certain point then leave when they see he just wants to keep them fighting at b grade within a simple circle just so old frank can earn himself a steady income( ricky hatton wanted bigger fights and left just look at rickys fights and money he's earned since not to mention he's now known worldwide) then theres others like joe calzaghe who are happy to live in warrens plans then complain

bottomline frank warren is britains biggest promoter even if he is full of crap

He's going to be announcing that he's signed two or three of Britain's Olympic boxers soon, so at least he puts his money where his mouth is. I actually don't mind Frank at all.

he's always going on about how silly joe calzaghe was to aggree a 50-50 split with roy jones.............. now anyone who knows me here knows i'm one step away from hate when it comes to joe but if him and jones aggree 50-50 then its upto them, franks only upset because he lost out on a million for doing nothing.............. jones aint stupid when it comes to money...............it doesnt take much thinking when you have a 10 million pot........which if you both have promtors/managers means they take 1mil - 1.5mil each meaning you and the other fighter split 7mil.............seeing as you both want to fight each other get rid of them and split 10mil for yourselfs....................warren got 1mil from hopkins v calzaghe..........did he really do that much work.............with just a phone call jones set the fight up and both got millions

sour grapes

Originally Posted by NUCLEAR BULL

he's always going on about how silly joe calzaghe was to aggree a 50-50 split with roy jones.............. now anyone who knows me here knows i'm one step away from hate when it comes to joe but if him and jones aggree 50-50 then its upto them, franks only upset because he lost out on a million for doing nothing.............. jones aint stupid when it comes to money...............it doesnt take much thinking when you have a 10 million pot........which if you both have promtors/managers means they take 1mil - 1.5mil each meaning you and the other fighter split 7mil.............seeing as you both want to fight each other get rid of them and split 10mil for yourselfs....................warren got 1mil from hopkins v calzaghe..........did he really do that much work.............with just a phone call jones set the fight up and both got millions

sour grapes

Hatton's boozy life style is going to catch up with him

How fucking BORING has that become? He's lost ONCE, to a guy he would NEVER beat, in 40+ fights. He's nearing the END of a highly successful career.

He's been able to manage the bad living with the training/fighting. Not everyone is the SAME!!!

ALL Businessmen despise the thought of losing money or missing out on money.

It is just sour grapes as mentioned by antimoron