Thread: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

After reading multiple posts from the well respected Smashup and other (some not so well respected) Haye followers I feel it's my duty to help them.

I'm a let you in on a little secret Smash. Only 3 people know so far. Me, David Haye and Lyle. This is privileged information. It was not meant to be put out there. Not yet. But I feel the need to bring you back to reality. So be grateful (and yes your are going to owe me one.) You ready? Here it comes.

Haye is a fraud. He's talented. No doubt. But so were Michael Grant, Jo-el Scott and Audrey Harrison. Haye has failure written all over him. And he knows it. All his talk is just that. Talk. It's all show. He just wants to get paid before it becomes public knowledge that he's the next "big miss". To his credit, he's not a stupid man. He knows how to go about things. He knows he running his mouth and calling everybody out will gather him a following. He knows him being the ruler of a weak Cruiserweight division carries some weight. He knows the public opinion of the Heavyweight division is a bad one. He used all that to his advantage. And it worked.

Haye has position himself (with the public's support) for a big money fight with one of the Klitschko brothers. Not because he wants to beat the best. But because it would pay him the most. Haye doesn't deserve a title shot. He hasn't earned it (what he did at Cruiserweight means nothing at Heavyweight). And he knows it. But the last thing Haye wants to do is earn one. The risk are to great. Earning a title shot means fighting people like Chris Arreola, Juan Carlos Gomez, Eddie Chambers. Fukk that. He gets knocked out and the charade is over. No big money. So he looks for the easy fights. Old ass Hasim Rahman. Can't get him. Fukk it. It's old ass and small Monte Barrett. Even better. From what I hear Ray Mercer was on speed dial if Barrett didn't accept.

Haye gets his easy win. And looks like his big fight as well. Mission accomplished. He'll get paid. But he won't win. Cuz he can't win. He's not even there to win. He's there to get paid. Afterwords he'll disappear. Naseem Hamed fashion. A rich man. That's it. I know it. He knows it. Lyle knows it. And now you know it. And so does the rest of the forum. So enough with Haye is God posts. They are hilarious. But also foolish

And don't forget. You owe me.

VD dude, just out of interest, have you ever praised a British fighter?

Originally Posted by bzkfn

VD dude, just out of interest, have you ever praised a British fighter?

Yes. I've rooted and put money on numerous UK fighters to win in my life time. Some come through. Some disappoint. I backed Danny Williams to beat A-Fraud and take his 0. And he did. Than Williams started getting on my nerves, so I hope Harrison would knock his ass out in the rematch. And he did. I've even backed Haye himself. His knock out of Maccarinelli is stored on one of my Ipods. Some that come to mind

Kenny Anderson over Kevin McIntyre Loss
Bradley Price over Anthony Small Win (that was sweet)
Any UK fighter over Ricky Hatton Loss
Junior Witter over Colin Lynes Win
Michael Gomez over A Mere Con Loss
Nicky Cook over Alex Arthur Win
Robin Reid over Joe Calzaghe Loss

I'm sure there's many more.

hahaha funny thread!!
Nice to know you read through my threads so much VD.
Diving up Wlads ass because you have no one too call your own is hillarious,say hello to Lyle while your in there for me will ya
"I owe you" .....
Your on form this week son.

Oh yeah forgot to say that i firmly believe Haye has the tools to do a number on Wlad and in style for that matter...
Vitali is a totally different fighter and a seasoned and granite chin monster.
If Haye beat Vitali i'd be shocked and i have ALWAYS said that.
Anyone struggles against Vitali.

Originally Posted by smashup

Oh yeah forgot to say that i firmly believe Haye has the tools to do a number on Wlad and in style for that matter...
Vitali is a totally different fighter and a seasoned and granite chin monster.
If Haye beat Vitali i'd be shocked and i have ALWAYS said that.
Anyone struggles against Vitali.

You know Michael Grant had the tools to be champion. So did Andrew Golata. Hell Fraudrey Harrison himself wasn't without tools. Having tools don't mean shiit. I don't think Haye has the heart, stamina or chin to be Heavyweight champion. Yeah maybe down the line I can see Haye picking up a vacant WBO or IBO title. But he'll never be the man at Heavyweight.

That's right he should have to work his way up.

Strange game boxing...

when a boxer takes easy fights hes slated and when he wants to fight the best hes slated.

on another note anyone see the live stream of big brother a few days ago with that woman from shamless slaging david haye off BIGTIME

Originally Posted by Saddo

Strange game boxing...

when a boxer takes easy fights hes slated and when he wants to fight the best hes slated.

on another note anyone see the live stream of big brother a few days ago with that woman from shamless slaging david haye off BIGTIME

No, I HAVE to see that! Anyone calling Haye a cunt on tv gets my vote.

Fat ugly bird from Shameless to win Big Brother!

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by Saddo

Strange game boxing...

when a boxer takes easy fights hes slated and when he wants to fight the best hes slated.

on another note anyone see the live stream of big brother a few days ago with that woman from shamless slaging david haye off BIGTIME

No, I HAVE to see that! Anyone calling Haye a cunt on tv gets my vote.

Fat ugly bird from Shameless to win Big Brother!

I thought you dropped a ton on Verne Troyer?

Haye has already won financially - The Setanta and 02 Arena deals for a start.

He has made fans with his exciting style and bravado. But he has people who now hate him and want to see him get Ko'd - priceless and all down to his own marketing.
Eubank and Naz both did the same and got paid. Both won many fights and won many title fights - Haye already was a 3 belt holder at Cruiserweight and he did that the Professional way - win the British title then beat the best in Europe.(No easy route)
Struggled at the weight but hung around for his shot and took it - in the champions backyard. (An Englishman is never the most welcomed of people in France) Then Unified and gave the UK fans a fight they wanted to see against Enzo Mac.

I think the most anti Haye are the Yanks but they always have been when its come to UK Heavyweights - so no surprises there but now it is laughable as there isn't a US Heavyweight in the World that is any good anymore - Kirk Johnson (or is it Kevin?) and 'fat' Chris are the best and they are practically novices.

Haye may fail - after all he'll be giving away weight and height in most fights but the man will go down trying and cause excitement - What will the US Heavy's be doing? Wheeling out Rahman again?, Locking Arreola's fridge? We already had the excitement of Calvin Brock and Tony Thompson ZZZzzz.. maybe Shannon Briggs - is he still fighting?

What has happened to US Heavyweight Boxing - it would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

You better hope Haye succeeds cos the division will go back to it's comatose state otherwise.

Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

Haye has already won financially - The Setanta and 02 Arena deals for a start.

He has made fans with his exciting style and bravado. But he has people who now hate him and want to see him get Ko'd - priceless and all down to his own marketing.
Eubank and Naz both did the same and got paid. Both won many fights and won many title fights - Haye already was a 3 belt holder at Cruiserweight and he did that the Professional way - win the British title then beat the best in Europe.(No easy route)
Struggled at the weight but hung around for his shot and took it - in the champions backyard. (An Englishman is never the most welcomed of people in France) Then Unified and gave the UK fans a fight they wanted to see against Enzo Mac.

I think the most anti Haye are the Yanks but they always have been when its come to UK Heavyweights - so no surprises there but now it is laughable as there isn't a US Heavyweight in the World that is any good anymore - Kirk Johnson (or is it Kevin?) and 'fat' Chris are the best and they are practically novices.

Haye may fail - after all he'll be giving away weight and height in most fights but the man will go down trying and cause excitement - What will the US Heavy's be doing? Wheeling out Rahman again?, Locking Arreola's fridge? We already had the excitement of Calvin Brock and Tony Thompson ZZZzzz.. maybe Shannon Briggs - is he still fighting?

What has happened to US Heavyweight Boxing - it would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

You better hope Haye succeeds cos the division will go back to it's comatose state otherwise.

Don't know about that. In my book Lennox is an all time great.

Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

Haye has already won financially - The Setanta and 02 Arena deals for a start.

He has made fans with his exciting style and bravado. But he has people who now hate him and want to see him get Ko'd - priceless and all down to his own marketing.
Eubank and Naz both did the same and got paid. Both won many fights and won many title fights - Haye already was a 3 belt holder at Cruiserweight and he did that the Professional way - win the British title then beat the best in Europe.(No easy route)
Struggled at the weight but hung around for his shot and took it - in the champions backyard. (An Englishman is never the most welcomed of people in France) Then Unified and gave the UK fans a fight they wanted to see against Enzo Mac.

I think the most anti Haye are the Yanks but they always have been when its come to UK Heavyweights - so no surprises there but now it is laughable as there isn't a US Heavyweight in the World that is any good anymore - Kirk Johnson (or is it Kevin?) and 'fat' Chris are the best and they are practically novices.

Haye may fail - after all he'll be giving away weight and height in most fights but the man will go down trying and cause excitement - What will the US Heavy's be doing? Wheeling out Rahman again?, Locking Arreola's fridge? We already had the excitement of Calvin Brock and Tony Thompson ZZZzzz.. maybe Shannon Briggs - is he still fighting?

What has happened to US Heavyweight Boxing - it would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

You better hope Haye succeeds cos the division will go back to it's comatose state otherwise.

Sure Haye has done well for himself...I don't think there is anyone out there trying to deny that...Those who do are looking at him strictly on his personality and overlooking everything else.....The fact that people do not believe he will beat Wlad has nothing to do with personality....Him acting like an ass all the time has nothing to do with where he is from...Yo9u use the word "Yanks" in almost a prejudice fashion......Guess what "Yanks" hate all arrogant cusse's no matter where they are from including here...

As for your comment on American heavyweights you say it in an almost mocking fashion...like you are on some competition show and there are teams...This is not the UK Vs USA contender fan show....but just to get a few things out of the way....

1. You have 2 ranked Hwts from UK Haye and Skelton (How haye is ranked after 1 fight is beyond me it was against Barrett for gosh sakes)

2. None of the champions are from the UK or USA....

3. Since we like to be sarcastic about the state of hwts in boxing today..lets not forget it is just today where the hell were your hw greats throughout history?....Other then Lennox my #1 all time fighter as everyone knows (just shows that our fan base has nothing to do with where a fighter is from...but to be fair the "Brits did not want to claim him until he became great so what does that say about you guys?)....

The last time I looked...

Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Liston, Patterson, Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Frazier, Holyfield, Bowe, Charles....

All came from the US.....

To go further we out rank your fighters in the ATG catagory in every division....

Over the last 5-10 years the best fighters from your country have been Hatton...Who was embaressed by an American fighter, Naz who was embaressed by a Mexican fighter who was groomed for greatness in the states and Calzaghe who I am a fan of but seems awful convienient he failed to face any American top level fighter in their primes...Lacy was garbage before Calzage and I have said so before the fight he was garbage......

So you have 3 out of our 300....in terms of greatness....

Leave the word "Yanks" and your sarcastic comments about the quality of our fighters out ofn it because we have proven time and again in history books we put out the superior product.....

BTW boxings 2 ATG Ray Robinson and Hank Armstrong were "Yanks"

So giggle your ass off on that sadness......


And in no way my British friends is any of thAT MEANT AS AN INSULT TO ANY OF YOUR OR YOUR FIGHTERS JUST A REMINDER TO AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE WHO THINKS HE IS CUTE

Originally Posted by Saddo

Strange game boxing...

when a boxer takes easy fights hes slated and when he wants to fight the best hes slated.

on another note anyone see the live stream of big brother a few days ago with that woman from shamless slaging david haye off BIGTIME

Spot on.

Thats what I have been saying for ages when people on hear are slagging off Haye.

Not that long ago Audly Harrison was rightly getting slagged off for not fighting the best.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

After reading multiple posts from the well respected Smashup and other (some not so well respected) Haye followers I feel it's my duty to help them.

I'm a let you in on a little secret Smash. Only 3 people know so far. Me, David Haye and Lyle. This is privileged information. It was not meant to be put out there. Not yet. But I feel the need to bring you back to reality. So be grateful (and yes your are going to owe me one.) You ready? Here it comes.

Haye is a fraud. He's talented. No doubt. But so were Michael Grant, Jo-el Scott and Audrey Harrison. Haye has failure written all over him. And he knows it. All his talk is just that. Talk. It's all show. He just wants to get paid before it becomes public knowledge that he's the next "big miss". To his credit, he's not a stupid man. He knows how to go about things. He knows he running his mouth and calling everybody out will gather him a following. He knows him being the ruler of a weak Cruiserweight division carries some weight. He knows the public opinion of the Heavyweight division is a bad one. He used all that to his advantage. And it worked.

Haye has position himself (with the public's support) for a big money fight with one of the Klitschko brothers. Not because he wants to beat the best. But because it would pay him the most. Haye doesn't deserve a title shot. He hasn't earned it (what he did at Cruiserweight means nothing at Heavyweight). And he knows it. But the last thing Haye wants to do is earn one. The risk are to great. Earning a title shot means fighting people like Chris Arreola, Juan Carlos Gomez, Eddie Chambers. Fukk that. He gets knocked out and the charade is over. No big money. So he looks for the easy fights. Old ass Hasim Rahman. Can't get him. Fukk it. It's old ass and small Monte Barrett. Even better. From what I hear Ray Mercer was on speed dial if Barrett didn't accept.

Haye gets his easy win. And looks like his big fight as well. Mission accomplished. He'll get paid. But he won't win. Cuz he can't win. He's not even there to win. He's there to get paid. Afterwords he'll disappear. Naseem Hamed fashion. A rich man. That's it. I know it. He knows it. Lyle knows it. And now you know it. And so does the rest of the forum. So enough with Haye is God posts. They are hilarious. But also foolish

And don't forget. You owe me.

You know they won't listen. They all think Calzaghe dominated Hopkins. Some of them even think Jennings will give Cotto a fight. It's hopeless. They will find out soon enough.

And nobody can accuse me of being a Brit-hater. I've always been an advocate of Lewis's greatness and a big fan of Hatton.