Thread: would calzaghe of ever been beaten??

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

Top 5 P4P all time champions? Are u out of your mind?

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

i think he could of broke marcianos record,but they would of had to be meaningful fights.i think his hunger is goin tho as he said himself.and you dont want to fight when you feeling like that,or u could end up on the wrong side of a beating. top five of all time no, did he have the ability to be yes. i think calzaghe is an amazing talent,not every ones cup of tea but hey.ive said this before and ill say it again,calzaghe on his absolute A game is unbeatable.or at the very least could of lived with anyone of the all time greats

Joe would have got beat eventually if he chose to fight RJJ in his prime. He chose to fight Ottke rejects form winning the title from Eubanks to Lacy which lengthened his career but not his legacy.

Calzaghe... top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?

'You mean he's up there with SRR, Joe Lewis, and Ali?

Of course he could have been beaten, any fighter can be. A fairly substantial number of people felt he lost to Hopkins, who regardless of the Pavlik performance, is not what he once was. Also Joe Calzaghe is a great champion, possibly the greatest British boxer of all time, but IMO he is not within touching distance of the top 5 of all time, his achievements & general skill level just do not take him anywhere near that high. Also not sure that he can become the greatest British sportsman of all time simply for the fact that he does not have the mass appeal or recognition that a Bobby Moore or Charlton have

Calzaghe is certainly a better sportsman than any footballers from Britain, Calzaghe has consistantly been the best in his division for 11 years, no footballer could say they have been that.

Here is a quote from Cuss D'amato about Ali that I think fits Calzaghe also.

"Any fighter who fought Muhammad Ali was intimidated by him.

You see, Ali's secret weapon was a tremendous will to win, an ability to take his own fear and project it as an irresistable force, which immediately tended to inhibit the ability of his opponent to execute what he knew."

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Calzaghe... top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?

'You mean he's up there with SRR, Joe Lewis, and Ali?

SRR only held the middleweight title 5 times because he kept losing and most of Louis's title defences were against bums and Calzaghe never got kayoed before he won the title like Louis did.

He beat everyone he faced.

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

ok sick of making Calzaghe out to be some god, Dawson would beat him at 175 and honestly how the hell did Joe clean out the division he hasn't fought tough and rugged Glen Johnson, he hasn't fought the man that many think is really #1 at lightheavy which is Dawson, hell he's even too scared to give the man i feel already beat him in B-Hop, in 2001 Jones would have destroyed Calzaghe and would have made him look ordinary at best. the fact that Calzaghe wasn't even able to really blow away the loser from the Contender Peter Manfredo, a man who was whooped by a welterweight and a jr. middleweight, it says alot

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

ok sick of making Calzaghe out to be some god, Dawson would beat him at 175 and honestly how the hell did Joe clean out the division he hasn't fought tough and rugged Glen Johnson, he hasn't fought the man that many think is really #1 at lightheavy which is Dawson, hell he's even too scared to give the man i feel already beat him in B-Hop, in 2001 Jones would have destroyed Calzaghe and would have made him look ordinary at best. the fact that Calzaghe wasn't even able to really blow away the loser from the Contender Peter Manfredo, a man who was whooped by a welterweight and a jr. middleweight, it says alot

Valuev almost beat Marcianos record, Holmes was one win away I think, these are heavies and that's all that can compete for Marciano's record. Look at this guys record, (julio ceser chavez) I think he went 90 + wins before he lost, does that count as blowing all these guys records away.?? Out of these lists of the best p4p all time from everyone here I don't know if I ever seen his name in any of them.

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

100% without a doubt! A well placed shot to the chin causing the brain to slosh its way the back of the head causing blackout or OK. Since there is no specific way to pinpoint the exact cause it is considered chance.... but the point is, it can happen to any fighter.

Not to belittle the mans accomplishments but there have been many boxers, although they did quit undefeated, with more wins without a loss than Calzague. It's just Calzague decided he had enough.... Every boxer (Pacquiao, Mayweather, SR Robinson... etc) in and out of the game could have been been OK'd and end up with a "L" on thier record... It is NOT a scracred! statistic and quite to the contrary a fighter that comes back from down or a a loss earns more respect from his peers and fans alike.

I feel had Calzaghe faced either a prime Jones or Hopkins he would have lost.

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

LOL Here Here!

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

Well plenty of people are hot on David Haye who has already been KO'd by a cruiserweight sooooo can you really blame the people who think that way?

Also when Lennox Lewis was fighting he had to crawl out under the shaddows of Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, and Riddick Bowe to make his own legacy and to accomplish that he sought those guys out to fight them and beat them AND he came to America to do it.