Thread: Mayweather's weaknesses

I've always watched for his strong points but can anyone tell what his weakenesses are? He hides them sooo good. And none of the 39 fighters he fought have figured it out (Castillo in the first fight hit a bit of it, and Floyd hid the rest of it)? If you were to fight Mayweather? What would be your gameplan? It doesn't seem like he has a problem with any style.

He's changed since the Castillo fight, he clinches and ties up opponents more.

I think his biggest weaknesses include
1. low output: Like Roy Jones Jr. he is so hard to hit that he can usually win a round throwing 40 punches, but sometimes that plays against him like when he fought Oscar De La Hoya, he would land more punches, but throw half as many, and people often see punches landed, so from a scoring stand point he can get shafted at times.
2. Southpaws: He has always looked a lot worse against southpaws, he comes forwards against them, he squares up, and he gets hit twice as much, its surprising such a good boxer and athlete has so many troubles with southpaws.
3. Combinations: He used to be a really good combination puncher at 130, but now we rarely see Floyd do anything but potshot, I don't get it, I think he could benefit from throwing more combinations because he is so good at doing it, but even as good as he is, he doesn't have those fluid combinations Mosley, Roy JOnes Jr, M. Taylor, and Leonard had, his combinations are more thought out, and that might be why.
4. He can be too defensive: He used to be an excellent counter puncher when he was at 130/135 and especially leaning back and countering over the jab, but he doesn't do things like that anymore, he is so focused on defense that he will evade a punch and either go into his defensive shell to avoid oncoming punches, or he will tie the guy up, I miss him being more of a counterpuncher.
5. he is redundant: kind of like Leonard, they tend to do the same things over and over again, but at least Leonard could throw combinations and would mix it up. Mayweather is great at what he does, but its one punch at a time with great defense, he doesn't usually change up the tempo or throw unique combinations like Roy Jones Jr was famous for. His style doesn't really use angles.
6. A lot less lateral movement: I've noticed against Hatton and De La Hoya, Mayweather was hardly using lateral movement anymore, he is so comfortable off the ropes that he neglects to keep himself off of them. This once again looks bad to judges because he isn't using ring generalship. I think if he doesn't use a lot more lateral movement against guys like Pacquiao or Shane MOsley he will be in big trouble.

Originally Posted by Taeth

He's changed since the Castillo fight, he clinches and ties up opponents more.

I think his biggest weaknesses include
1. low output: Like Roy Jones Jr. he is so hard to hit that he can usually win a round throwing 40 punches, but sometimes that plays against him like when he fought Oscar De La Hoya, he would land more punches, but throw half as many, and people often see punches landed, so from a scoring stand point he can get shafted at times.
2. Southpaws: He has always looked a lot worse against southpaws, he comes forwards against them, he squares up, and he gets hit twice as much, its surprising such a good boxer and athlete has so many troubles with southpaws.
3. Combinations: He used to be a really good combination puncher at 130, but now we rarely see Floyd do anything but potshot, I don't get it, I think he could benefit from throwing more combinations because he is so good at doing it, but even as good as he is, he doesn't have those fluid combinations Mosley, Roy JOnes Jr, M. Taylor, and Leonard had, his combinations are more thought out, and that might be why.
4. He can be too defensive: He used to be an excellent counter puncher when he was at 130/135 and especially leaning back and countering over the jab, but he doesn't do things like that anymore, he is so focused on defense that he will evade a punch and either go into his defensive shell to avoid oncoming punches, or he will tie the guy up, I miss him being more of a counterpuncher.
5. he is redundant: kind of like Leonard, they tend to do the same things over and over again, but at least Leonard could throw combinations and would mix it up. Mayweather is great at what he does, but its one punch at a time with great defense, he doesn't usually change up the tempo or throw unique combinations like Roy Jones Jr was famous for. His style doesn't really use angles.
6. A lot less lateral movement: I've noticed against Hatton and De La Hoya, Mayweather was hardly using lateral movement anymore, he is so comfortable off the ropes that he neglects to keep himself off of them. This once again looks bad to judges because he isn't using ring generalship. I think if he doesn't use a lot more lateral movement against guys like Pacquiao or Shane MOsley he will be in big trouble.

I'm sure he could benefit from it. But I doubt his hands could take it. Mayweather potshots cuz he's been forced to potshot.

Floyd`s only weakness as far as the boxing game goes is,....He lacks Charm.....Period!Floyd could never equal Leonard in this category,because Charm is A NATURAL QUALITY,has nothing to do with winning fight`s however.....

Mayweather was`nt alway`s this unlikeable Guy that many of you have come to hate,if you watch his fight`s prior to Gatti,Floyd would alway`s smile and be very respectful of his opponents,etc....

I think elerby got in his ear prior to the Gatti fight,and said,...Look Floyd this nice Gut shit is not working for you,and Esp in this fight,everybody loves this little bleeder,So you need to be the bad Guy,and let Gatti be the Good guy,and IMO Elerby(SP)WAS DEAD ON BALLS RIGHT,Floyd`s carear has been on A Rocket since then,....Fact is Floyd makes A better Bad Guy,than he does Good,really he`s not that good at either,But his Skills are unquestionable.

As far as Judah is concerned,what I seen in the fight,was Mayweather just like A Fukin old time Pro,give Judah just enough rope to hang himself,everything Judah got in those first 3 rounds Mayweather gave him,felt Judah out,let Judah build up A little confidence,take some chances that he should`nt have and then went on to Whup his ass good and proper!,...After the 3rd round Judah did`nt win another second of that fight,and was on his way to getting stopped before he Cowarly fouled Mayweather.

Originally Posted by TeleTuff

Floyd`s only weakness as far as the boxing game goes is,....He lacks Charm.....Period!Floyd could never equal Leonard in this category,because Charm is A NATURAL QUALITY,has nothing to do with winning fight`s however.....

Mayweather was`nt alway`s this unlikeable Guy that many of you have come to hate,if you watch his fight`s prior to Gatti,Floyd would alway`s smile and be very respectful of his opponents,etc....

I think elerby got in his ear prior to the Gatti fight,and said,...Look Floyd this nice Gut shit is not working for you,and Esp in this fight,everybody loves this little bleeder,So you need to be the bad Guy,and let Gatti be the Good guy,and IMO Elerby(SP)WAS DEAD ON BALLS RIGHT,Floyd`s carear has been on A Rocket since then,....Fact is Floyd makes A better Bad Guy,than he does Good,really he`s not that good at either,But his Skills are unquestionable.

As far as Judah is concerned,what I seen in the fight,was Mayweather just like A Fukin old time Pro,give Judah just enough rope to hang himself,everything Judah got in those first 3 rounds Mayweather gave him,felt Judah out,let Judah build up A little confidence,take some chances that he should`nt have and then went on to Whup his ass good and proper!,...After the 3rd round Judah did`nt win another second of that fight,and was on his way to getting stopped before he Cowarly fouled Mayweather.

Agreed if Judah hadn't gone for the low blow & the thing on the back of the head he would've been outta there. All the stuff afterwards actually gave Judah time to get back into it at least from getting knocked out. There are obviously weaknesses, such as against southpaws, which is OF COURSE why Manny would beat him , but people used the first Castillo fight to show why Hatton would beat him, the fact is he's learnt from all of that, and if he comes back I can't see any of the current crop beating him, the most likely being Cotto, but even then I think they'd find a way to beat him.

Mayweathers weakness is constant pressure like Castillo did in the first fight. The[IMG]file:///C:/Users/terrorsid/Desktop/mayweather_hatton_boxing_400a.jpg[/IMG] only problem is he uses his elbows in every fight. But he does it so slick.... these boxer get confused then after a while those pop shot become easy. Hatton was a prime example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0qclW1dag8 Watch this video and give me your thought and actually count the elbows you'll be amazed. And this is the only way he handled lil Hattons pressure so how would it have been if he faced Cotto

Shit if I know a good gameplan to beat Mayweather I'd be morre in demand as a trainer than Manny Steward, Roach and Floyd Sr combined.

When these virtuoso's come around, like Roy Jones, guys who don't always go by the book and do things they're own way, people criticize them. People always shit on Jones for not using a jab, and later on in his career for pot shotting and not throwing combos. But the fact is, it worked wonders for him. Jones was never really bested until 15 years or so into his career. And obviously Floyd's style has worked wonders for him, he's gone 39-0 against solid opposition.

So as fans we can try to nitpick the styles or behaviour of these guys, but in the end these virtuosos know what they're doing a hell of a lot better than we do.

As far as Floyd's flaws go, the only thing I can think of is his personality. If he had played his cards right, he probably could be near Sugar Ray Leonard popularity.

But I mean in the ring, the guy has everything. Heart, a chin, physical gifts, boxing skill/knowledge, work ethic, stamina. He is probably one of the least flawed fighters in boxing history.

arrogance
over confidence
not much going on upstairs
bad dress sense
bad relations with other family members

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

arrogance
over confidence
not much going on upstairs
bad dress sense
bad relations with other family members

But he is friend to ring posts around the world

His only weakness is greed and the love of money. That will be eventually be the only thing that get's him beat. In the ring he'll just get a bunch of people's hopes up, a bunch of reaches at why he has a chance of loosing that sound good in theory, he'll get in there win and we'll start all over again. It's when he fights too long or doesn't focus on the fight at hand when you will see a totally different guy in the ring and yes..for all the floyd haters he will loose, not anytime soon or by any of these current so called threats though. One week it's cotto next tony then hatton, pac, marquez blah blah blah, i for one ain't fallin for floyd's bs 24/7 crap .......when the guy in the fight himself comes up with a show to help convince us he just might loose anyhow he's tricked me enough times already, this guy aint loosing every guy who has a great fight anywhere near his weight class is automatically the new "floyd slayer" the david might be out there somewhere but i'm not holding my breathe.

Everybody has their weaknesses in the ring, EVERYONE, Floyd is no different.

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

arrogance
over confidence
not much going on upstairs
bad dress sense
bad relations with other family members

But he is friend to ring posts around the world

a good jab in my opinion is the one thing that floyd is susepatble too, De La Hoya proved this to a certain extent early in the fight but then gave up with it,

this is why i think cotto would give him alot of problems,

that and anyone whos as quick if not quicker than he is which isnt many people, zab had him sussed just too bad he has the attention span of a 6 year old