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Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
If arum really said that, then pac-floyd is something that might just be wishful thinking, because there's no way floyd agrees to the small share. Esp seeing as how floyd feels he's as big a draw as oscar.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
If you're really reading Bleacher Report then you're wasting your time. Blog writers and newspeople are two totally different things and that site makes the blog writers the news people.
I haven't seen that Arum comment anywhere, I don't know. But the Roach comment, I'm pretty sure that article was posted on the main board here and I read the article and Roach didn't say that at all. Unless he was referring to another article. Roach said that Manny wouldn't go for a 60-40 split and that both guys have egos. Nothing about him personally not going for that split (don't see why it would matter to Roach) and definitely nothing that Manny would in turn like a 60/40 split of his own.
I really wouldn't get to worked up over this, I really don't think Arum would say that. He's shrewd and knows how to make big fights happen and considering that Mayweather has a fight scheduled, that just seems boneheaded for him to say so early on into things. Bleacher Report is a safe haven for wackos.
Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
At least it should be 51/49 in favor of PAC... Just like the 52/48 PAC got from the Hatton purse split...
PAC is the hottest boxer right now... He should get the lion's share even out of respect for his current status in boxing...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Nah it should just be 50-50.Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Nah it should just be 50-50.
I think PAC just want a little recognition or respect on his current status as #1 P4P and the #1 man in boxing right now...
He did it in the negotiation for the Hatton fight... PAC didn't accept a 50-50 split and finally settle for 52-48 split... Just little recognition is what PAC is after for, IMO...
Anyway PAC will always try to gain more recognition in the actual fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
No it shouldn't. In case you forgot, Floyd originally retired without having fought Margarito, Cotto, Williams, or Mosley. He doesn't give a sh!t what you, me, or anyone thinks of his legacy, because as far as he's concerned, he's already stamped his legacy. There's a reason he changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to 'Money.' That's all he's concerned with. He'll just as soon fight any other fighter in the world who won't stall on negotiations rather than Pac if he's not getting the most money. Manny on the other hand, cares about his legacy and his fans, and the fact is this fight WILL happen, and Manny ain't getting the lion's share, that's just a fact. At best it would be split down the middle. The leverage is stacked completely in Floyd's favor in that he wouldn't lose any sleep by not fighting Manny, Pacquiao would though.
Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Team PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
What ever cut each gets, i'm quite sure it will be enough for both man to never have to lace on a glove again.... Lets hope the fight lasts longer than Pac Hatton and we see them both earn their money.
Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Um, sorry, but the biggest selling UFC ppv was Lesnar-Couture, which occured during these exact same economic times. Pacman ain't getting more money than Mayweather. Accept it and move onTeam PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
And when Floyd-Marquez does more PPV buys than Pac-Marquez, Floyd can counter by saying that he did more PPVs against Marquez in a bad economy than Pac did against Marquez in a good economy.Team PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Floyd's not getting less than 50/50 against Pac, and there's no evidence to suggest that he should take less than 50/50.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
I dont think the floyd n pac fight will happen anyway. floyd already said he doesnt need pac at all. he does more numbers in ppv buys than pac and gets more of the money when he fights. and by the way floyd is a wayyyy bigger draw than pac and the numbers prove it.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
I'm sure this is a negotiation ploy, this fight, if it ever happens (I have my doubts) will be a 50/50 fight
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
It doesn't really matter what Manny did with Dela Hoya!
It doesn't really matter what Floyd did with Dela Hoya!
It doesn't really matter what Manny did with Hatton!
It doesn't really matter what Floyd did with Hatton!
It doesn't really matter what Manny did with Marquez!
It doesn't really matter what Floyd does with Marquez!
Because it would be a Pacquiao vs Mayweather Jr Show! It matters what they can do together.
Valid arguments are going to made from both sides of the table. The only way Arum will be able to make the case that Pacquiao is a bigger draw in PAC vs PBF is if PBF vs JMM is a very very poor draw. Less than 300K PPV
Since it's a historic fight maybe it's time to make more history and let the fighters settle who gets the bigger purse inside the ring! 40/40 split outside the ring and winner gets 20 more.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
You can't prove any of that! Mayweather Jr. is not an open book. No one knows what PBF really makes. Back up your statements with real verifiable facts! The numbers don't really Prove anything.I dont think the floyd n pac fight will happen anyway. floyd already said he doesnt need pac at all. he does more numbers in ppv buys than pac and gets more of the money when he fights. and by the way floyd is a wayyyy bigger draw than pac and the numbers prove it.
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