Thread: Jones Jr. - Tyson

I was watching Jones - Tarver I for the first time today and the British commentators were talking about how a match between Jones and Tyson was in the works. They would have fought for the WBA belt Jones took from Ruiz. I had no idea this fight had ever even been discussed let alone almost made. After seeing what Tarver did to Jones in the second fight I'm glad it never happened.

Even though Tyson was past it at that point, I think it would have been another Spinks-Tyson outcome.

I don't know about the outcome. I think Roy had a tough time fighting Tarver because of him having to lose so much weight after taking the belt from Ruiz. Roy was straight up muscle at heavyweight and I could only imagine the toll it must've taken on him to drop the weight.

If Roy had stayed around that weight he would've been more comfortable. Add that with Tyson not being so stable upstairs, I think Roy would've had a better chance that some people would give him.

IMO it would be like any other Tyson fight against a big name. He can be outboxed but if he catches them, it would be all over.

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I don't know about the outcome. I think Roy had a tough time fighting Tarver because of him having to lose so much weight after taking the belt from Ruiz. Roy was straight up muscle at heavyweight and I could only imagine the toll it must've taken on him to drop the weight.

If Roy had stayed around that weight he would've been more comfortable. Add that with Tyson not being so stable upstairs, I think Roy would've had a better chance that some people would give him.

IMO it would be like any other Tyson fight against a big name. He can be outboxed but if he catches them, it would be all over.

I agree that it might have been a different proposition if Jones had never gone down to fight Tarver, but the Tyson fight (apparently) was to occur after the first Tarver fight, so Jones would have already dropped the weight and then regained it prior to the Tyson fight.

Jones reflexes were deteriorating at that point and I think Tyson would've been able to catch him with something that would have stopped the fight.

If Jones had never moved down to fight Tarver and lost all that he had then i'd have picked him over Tyson at that point in Tysons career

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I don't know about the outcome. I think Roy had a tough time fighting Tarver because of him having to lose so much weight after taking the belt from Ruiz. Roy was straight up muscle at heavyweight and I could only imagine the toll it must've taken on him to drop the weight.

If Roy had stayed around that weight he would've been more comfortable. Add that with Tyson not being so stable upstairs, I think Roy would've had a better chance that some people would give him.

IMO it would be like any other Tyson fight against a big name. He can be outboxed but if he catches them, it would be all over.

I agree that it might have been a different proposition if Jones had never gone down to fight Tarver, but the Tyson fight (apparently) was to occur after the first Tarver fight, so Jones would have already dropped the weight and then regained it prior to the Tyson fight.

Jones reflexes were deteriorating at that point and I think Tyson would've been able to catch him with something that would have stopped the fight.

With that type of fluctuation in weight, Jones may have been sluggish and taken out within 3.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Even though Tyson was past it at that point, I think it would have been another Spinks-Tyson outcome.

Sorry mate but i think RJJ would of had a decent chance, this is the same Mike Tyson that was getting out boxed by Francois Botha. Until he found a lucky right hand, Mike Tyson at that point was for certain there for the taking.

Ruiz was a better fighter than tyson at that time, but Mike still had one punch power. Jones could outbox him but he would have to make it out of the fourth round first, and I cant see him taking a flush punch from Tyson and sticking to the gameplan after getting rattled. Even a washed up Tyson could still smell blood.

Ruiz seriously stunned Jones in the 1st round of their fight. Even as far gone as he was Tyson would have seriously f@cked him up.

Jones went into negotiations with both Tyson and Holyfield but neither fight went anywhere

I remember when this fight was being talked about and I remember people saying that this was going to be a 100 million dollar event. I really would have given Jones a real shot at beating Iron Mike with his speed and pot shots he probably would have frustrated Mike to the point of chair throwing and biting other parts of Jones anatomy. Tyson's last few years of fighting were throwing hooks and hoping for that 1 big bomb to land and I just think Jones would have been to good for that. If Jones could have got through the 1st round Tyson onslaught then it would have been all down hill from there. Jones by TKO win.

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I don't know about the outcome. I think Roy had a tough time fighting Tarver because of him having to lose so much weight after taking the belt from Ruiz. Roy was straight up muscle at heavyweight and I could only imagine the toll it must've taken on him to drop the weight.

If Roy had stayed around that weight he would've been more comfortable. Add that with Tyson not being so stable upstairs, I think Roy would've had a better chance that some people would give him.

IMO it would be like any other Tyson fight against a big name. He can be outboxed but if he catches them, it would be all over.

All Roy would have had to done was to stay away from Mike for 4 rounds and Tyson woulda sat on his butt and quit outta of exhaustion.

Tyson didn't have his heart in boxing anymore at that stage.

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

Originally Posted by ross

Jones was full of hot air and shit

He ws also supposed to fight Douglas but backed out after his dad called it a stupid idea, he was also supposed to fight Holyfield and chickened out of that too.

In fact his pulling out of fights had Tarver draw a cartoon of Don King dragging Jones to the ring tied up to fight Ruiz because everyone thought Roy would pull out of that too.

Yeah and then Roy DOMINATED John Ruiz.

And beat Tarver in their first match by out gutting him down the stretch.

Roy dominated Ruiz?

Who hasnt, Toney did it better and so did Tua.

Roy never fought Tyson because Tyson had fast hands and a genuine big punch.

Mike would have loved the opportunity to whale away at Roy while he sat on the ropes and Mike wouldnt have been befuddled by Roys crap defence of putting earmuffs on and standing straight up, a nice uppercut would have launched Roy out the ring