Thread: Who has the better boxing future? Khan or Ortiz?

Both are prospects at 140. Both have had setback losses to their career, both have major weaknesses, Khan for his chin, Ortiz for his perceived lack of heart.

I go with Khan because he has a shrewd promoter in Warren who maneuvers him to have a title fight at 140 when Khan hasn't done anything to merit that opportunity. I can see Khan getting a decision against Kotelnik, vacates the belt at 140 to avoid the dangerous opponents, has a massive fight with Hatton and could possibly beat him, he gets another washed up good fighter on his resume and will continue to scam the general British public out of their money.

Ortiz on the other hand was happy go lucky with his attitude after the Maidana fight and was pissing off Oscar who is his promoter. If Oscar was a more shrewd promoter he would have gotten Ortiz a title fight with Kotelnik before this Maidana fight.

What do you thinkj?

ad go with khan hes got a better team behind him and is the better boxer imo a think in the next 2 or 3 years he could be top class but if he fights hatton soon he loses and bad.

khan .... he seems more protected by his promoters

Khan's shockingly poor punch resistance against Ortiz quite shocking lack of heart/bottle?

I'd say neither has a great future.. but Khan will certainly try to achieve more than Ortiz will.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Khan's shockingly poor punch resistance against Ortiz quite shocking lack of heart/bottle?

I'd say neither has a great future.. but Khan will certainly try to achieve more than Ortiz will.

Yeah tough one; but I'll take Khan who at least didn't all but quit on the spot after getting sparked. I've watched the Ortiz fiasco several times and you can't really up about a guy who seemingly all but said "I don't think I like getting punched this much, I quit". Khan might get ktfo alot but if managed right he could make a career; Ortiz can't make a career if he jets out the sport

Khan. I've heard Roach say he's targeting Morales as Khan's next opponent after Kotelnik. Khan is going to be protected, I imagine Golden Boy will throw Ortiz in the deep end again and hope he's learnt to swim this time.

You can fix heart, but you can't fix a chin.

Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer

You can fix heart, but you can't fix a chin.

a wouldnt agree with that a mean if ur a shit bag ull always be 1 imo but cant u toughen ur neck muscles up with weights witch would mean ur head wouldnt snap bak as much getting punch there for less chance of getting ko plus sparring with harder hitters would all help the chin

Wow I didn't know that Morales is a possible opponent for Khan.

What I see in Khans future is that he outpoints Kotelnik for the WBA belt, fights Morales at 140 then fights Hatton late in 2010 at which time Ricky will be 32 and even worse than right now, possibly fights Pacman in '12 when Pacman is 34 and doesn't have the reflexes or speed anymore and maybe a future fight with Mayweather in '13 when Floyd will be 36 and needs money and doesn't have the speed and reflexes anymore. Then Khan will pronounce that he beat so many top legends and will be known as one of the all time greats.

Khan has a bright future indeed, but he has to get past Kotlenick, which I think he should be able to. Warren is a shrewd man.

Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer

You can fix heart, but you can't fix a chin.

How can you fix heart ?

I think people are overstating Khan's chin's. If you look at Khan and Ortiz its clear who the more gifted one is. Khan is more technical and much quicker. Khan is more athletic. I thought Ortiz was the more durable one but now that is very questionable. To me Ortiz has shown me nothing to agree with the hype. At least Khan has the boxing skills that show promise. Ortiz looks ordinary to me and very predictable. He is not very fast, strong, technical, athletic, or durable. He is about average or a cut above in all those categories. He obviously doesn't have a granite chin so he will have to do something different. Unless he models his game off BHop, a very rare breed, I don't think he will be better than Khan and I just can't see why DLH has such high hopes for Ortiz. He thinks Ortiz will be beyond elite. I don't see him even reaching elite status. Those waters are a lot deeper than what Maidana is at this point. So he better do a lot of digging deep in his time off. Khan may reach elite. He at least has the better tools to do so.

Ortiz. He can be dropped and he'll get up. Con can't. That punch in the first round that dropped Ortiz. Con don't get up from that