Thread: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

Kelly Pavlik scraps title bout with Paul Williams - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

Paul Williams would make this thing EXTREMELY interesting...

but how boring would a Williams v Dirrell fight be? Williams' reach would impede Dirrell's ability to run, so he would have to hug and hold EVEN more...

But Williams destroying Froch, and just being matched with Kessler and Abraham would be worth a damn PPV.

Originally Posted by hfahrenheit

Kelly Pavlik scraps title bout with Paul Williams - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

Paul Williams would make this thing EXTREMELY interesting...

but how boring would a Williams v Dirrell fight be? Williams' reach would impede Dirrell's ability to run, so he would have to hug and hold EVEN more...

But Williams destroying Froch, and just being matched with Kessler and Abraham would be worth a damn PPV.

Allan Green officially is the first alternate. Adding Williams would definately throw a wrench in the gears though and make things interesting. Williams/Dirrell would be 10 times better than Dirrell/Froch, Williams won't stand there and wait for Dirrell to do what he wants him to do he will keep swinging until the bell rings clinching or not.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by hfahrenheit

Kelly Pavlik scraps title bout with Paul Williams - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

Paul Williams would make this thing EXTREMELY interesting...

but how boring would a Williams v Dirrell fight be? Williams' reach would impede Dirrell's ability to run, so he would have to hug and hold EVEN more...

But Williams destroying Froch, and just being matched with Kessler and Abraham would be worth a damn PPV.

Allan Green officially is the first alternate. Adding Williams would definately throw a wrench in the gears though and make things interesting. Williams/Dirrell would be 10 times better than Dirrell/Froch, Williams won't stand there and wait for Dirrell to do what he wants him to do he will keep swinging until the bell rings clinching or not.

Yeah, I knew about Green, just didn't want to accept it. Winky, Williams, and Bute are all better options.

I think whomever it is should still have to win a fight to get in before. Not really fair that Green should get a "bye" to the 2nd round. Williams is unproven at 168.

I'd like to see the winner of Bute-Andrade 2 get into the tourney myself. Guarantee us a true Supermiddle World Champion.

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

Originally Posted by ross

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

Originally Posted by jdonaher1

...Williams is unproven at 168.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He seems to have the frame for it, but that's really getting thrown into the fire at 10lbs heavier than he's ever fought. Plus his big advantage in height and reach would be greatly diminished against these guys that are naturally bigger than the lower weight class fighters he's been in with. Not saying he wouldn't persevere, just like you said, he should really be more of a known quantity at that weight, before being thrown into a tourney like this.

Ever since Green had his intestinal problems and lost to Miranda, I haven't been so enamored with him. Seems like all he does is look at his shoes. Really weird. I think he getting better about that, but still...

Originally Posted by Myk_Myk

Originally Posted by jdonaher1

...Williams is unproven at 168.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He seems to have the frame for it, but that's really getting thrown into the fire at 10lbs heavier than he's ever fought. Plus his big advantage in height and reach would be greatly diminished against these guys that are naturally bigger than the lower weight class fighters he's been in with. Not saying he wouldn't persevere, just like you said, he should really be more of a known quantity at that weight, before being thrown into a tourney like this.

Ever since Green had his intestinal problems and lost to Miranda, I haven't been so enamored with him. Seems like all he does is look at his shoes. Really weird. I think he getting better about that, but still...

That's why I like Williams at this weight--he has a better chance of being forced to box. Williams' boxing skills, not ability to use his height and reach to his advantage, would be put on display. I'm not saying Williams is a bum, I'm just saying he gets by without boxing.

His addition would make this thing ultra competitive.

Originally Posted by jdonaher1

I think whomever it is should still have to win a fight to get in before. Not really fair that Green should get a "bye" to the 2nd round. Williams is unproven at 168.

I'd like to see the winner of Bute-Andrade 2 get into the tourney myself. Guarantee us a true Supermiddle World Champion.

I agree...cause otherwise the points thing will be skewed.

Originally Posted by jdonaher1

I think whomever it is should still have to win a fight to get in before. Not really fair that Green should get a "bye" to the 2nd round. Williams is unproven at 168.

I'd like to see the winner of Bute-Andrade 2 get into the tourney myself. Guarantee us a true Supermiddle World Champion.

Green is by far the most appropriate choice as an alternate.

Firstly he wouldn't getting a 'bye' into the second round, the first 3 rounds are a league format, and Green would come in at a disadvantage having to start on 0 points with only two fights to qualify, rather than the others who had 3.

Secondly he's clearly the best available option to step in at short notice. Bute is going to fight Andrade, the likes of Pavlik and Williams already have their own career paths.

Finally, Green, unlike Bika is an American. If Taylor is unable to continue Showtime will need to bring in another American fighter to keep up the viewing figures. Green is known and has a name stateside, unlike Sakio Bika who is based in Australia. True he was on the Contender, but nobody has watched that since the first season so he won't have made many fans from that.

Miranda would be the best replacement.

Originally Posted by hfahrenheit

Kelly Pavlik scraps title bout with Paul Williams - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

Paul Williams would make this thing EXTREMELY interesting...

but how boring would a Williams v Dirrell fight be? Williams' reach would impede Dirrell's ability to run, so he would have to hug and hold EVEN more...

But Williams destroying Froch, and just being matched with Kessler and Abraham would be worth a damn PPV.

Im pretty sure i read barry mc guigan stating that Bute was the reserve fighter if someone was to pull out

I still think Miranda would beat Allan Green again but I really don't mind him as a Taylor replacement, he could be described as a poor man's Jermain Taylor anyways. Also, if it was Bute then what would they do for that 0 next to Taylor's score. Bute coming in would turn things on there head, Green isn't going to make many problems for anyone in this tournament. Did anyone see Green against Tarvis Simms?

I'd pick him to beat Carl Froch and that's about it.

Out of Green, Miranda and Bika, Miranda is the smallest and has had the most beatings, the other 2 have a genuine better chance.

Get Green and Bika to box each other for the right to get in the tournament, im sure someone else will pull out, Taylor hasnt yet pulled out but its nigh on a full gone conclusion that hes had it! The first round isnt over and thats 1 fighter already out, theres bound to be more pull outs.

If any of the boxers I mentioned had any sense, theyd be drumming up publicity right now to get in the tournament.

If JT opts to split the Bute-Andrade winner should be the replacement
Green is hot n cold & loves his kicks
Bika I could live with
Miranda already got owed by AA & schooled by Ward