Thread: Could prime Foreman have beaten Wladimir?

I was just thinking about this today, and baring a big lucky punch I just don't see Foreman standing a chance. I think Wlad would use good movement and his jab and totally keep Foreman at bay. In his day George was so big, but in comparison he is two inches shorter and 25 pounds lighter than Wladimir, and as strong as he was I don't see with his lack of footwork how he would have the power to bull through Wlad's jab.

I'd give the Foreman who fought Holyfield a better chance at beating him.Mentally superior to young George...would be a nice jab contest for a while but keep remembering how Stewarts jab turned George into a lumpy mashed mess.Dont think Wlad could get away with holding that right hand back so much,he'd have to commit it early and often leaving his melon there.Foreman was a shuffler in comeback but had a suprisingly fluid and hurtful 1-2

Could he? Definitely yes. Would he? I think Wlad beats Foreman more times than not. But probably something like 3 out of 5. This would be a fight that I think either fighter could win by KO. Of course Foreman has the better(and maybe his only) chance. But a prime Foreman actually moved decent. No less than a Samuel Peter and Peter had Wlad down several times. I think the new version of Wlad, who is aware of his chin issues, would be the better fighter against Foreman. The pre-Sanders Wlad would probably lose before halftime.

You guys must be kidding, Wladimir Klitschko is deadly cautious against fighters like Sultan Ibragimov. And you think he beats a prime George Foreman ? no way no how.

Wladimir Klitschko has a weak chin, he has suspect stamina. And the only reason he is improved. Is because he fights so cautiously, which i got nothing against.

But then again he's only allowed to get away with that, because there's not real Heavyweight's around to test him.

A prime George Foreman in the early 70's, had underrated speed. And was quite loose suprisingly, if you watch his fight vs George Chuvalo you'll see what i mean. It certainly shocked me when i see it.

And if anyone says George Foreman can't KO Wladimir Klitschko, late on because he had suspect stamina in the 70's and was too wild. Then i suggest you look at his win over a good boxer Gregorio Peralta, he stopped him in the 10th round, and Gregorio Peralta was a good boxer.

And eventually George Foreman would catch up to Wladimir Klitschko, there's no way Wladimir Klitschko would be able to fight the entire fight. Not getting hit with one of George Foreman's bombs, and it would only take one flush punch from George Foreman.

It would take one perfectly landed punch by George Foreman. I don't think he would necessarily hurt Wladimir with a glancing blow. Foreman was more the type of guy who really hurt guys with punches but he didn't have that snapping Tyson or Hearns type power that lead to a lot of one punch ko's.

Wladimir was cautious of Sultan's speed and southpaw style, he fought the wrong fight that night, I can't see how that fight in any way compares to how he would fight Foreman.

Foreman was relatively light on his feet compared to the big guys today, but he was only 220pounds. Wladimir is just as light on his feet but he has a lot better defensive skills and he has all that extra size behind his jab.

The big problem Wlad made against Peter is that he didn't trust in his jab enough like he did against Rahman and Brewster II. He should have made a more concerted effort to stick it harder in Sam's face. I honestly don't think many heavyweights in the history of the sport could beat Wlad when he is landing his jab effectively.

Originally Posted by ICB

You guys must be kidding, Wladimir Klitschko is deadly cautious against fighters like Sultan Ibragimov. And you think he beats a prime George Foreman ? no way no how.

Wladimir Klitschko has a weak chin, he has suspect stamina. And the only reason he is improved. Is because he fights so cautiously, which i got nothing against.

But then again he's only allowed to get away with that, because there's not real Heavyweight's around to test him.

A prime George Foreman in the early 70's, had underrated speed. And was quite loose suprisingly, if you watch his fight vs George Chuvalo you'll see what i mean. It certainly shocked me when i see it.

And if anyone says George Foreman can't KO Wladimir Klitschko, late on because he had suspect stamina in the 70's and was too wild. Then i suggest you look at his win over a good boxer Gregorio Peralta, he stopped him in the 10th round, and Gregorio Peralta was a good boxer.

And eventually George Foreman would catch up to Wladimir Klitschko, there's no way Wladimir Klitschko would be able to fight the entire fight. Not getting hit with one of George Foreman's bombs, and it would only take one flush punch from George Foreman.

You're saying Foreman would beat Klitschko on the strength of Sultan Ibragimov? Do the two fight ANYTHING alike? Klitschko was cautious because he didn't know how good Sultan's chin was and he was good defensively. Sultan was waiting to load up with a hayemaker to try to take him out. Any fighter willing to stand and trade with Klitschko is in for a rude awakening. Klitschko is much better defensively than any incarnation of Foreman and he's also much lighter on his feet than any incarnation of Foreman. People who just stand in front of either fighter are going to lose badly and Klitschko prepares for every fighter. He would have been quick enough to give movement to George so he wouldn't have a standing target.

And let's not underrate Klitschko's power. Michael Moorer, as he put it, was crushing George before the KO came. Wlad would hit him even harder and actually pay attention to his defense. Sure, Foreman could have knocked him out had he landed a couple 1-2s, but Klitschko would have reduced the likelihood of that happening. In the meantime, any version of Foreman was hittable and I don't see Foreman lasting after 2 dozen or so of those straight rights landing flush.

I think a young or old Big George would have beat Wlad, his chin is way too suspect if you ask me. A young George would have eventually nailed him with one of those wild shots and an older smarter George would have eventually set him up for a nice right cross like he did Moore. Either way I like Big George.

Foreman would destroy Wlad IMO. He had a great jab (maybe even better than Wlads) that set up the hardest punches in history, and when them punches land on Wlad i'm sorry but it's lights out.

George really had good fundamentals it's just he hit so damned hard people forget how good at just boxing he actually was!

If anything Vitali who has never really gotten beat, had a better shot at beating George. Lets not forget the eras in which these two fighters come from. Wladimir and his brother have ruled a rather weak heavy weight division, big George is an all time great, and he fought and beat some all time greats, Wladimir not so much. I think Frazier would have probably Ko'd Wlademir and we all know what Foreman did to him.

Originally Posted by Zilla

Originally Posted by ICB

You guys must be kidding, Wladimir Klitschko is deadly cautious against fighters like Sultan Ibragimov. And you think he beats a prime George Foreman ? no way no how.

Wladimir Klitschko has a weak chin, he has suspect stamina. And the only reason he is improved. Is because he fights so cautiously, which i got nothing against.

But then again he's only allowed to get away with that, because there's not real Heavyweight's around to test him.

A prime George Foreman in the early 70's, had underrated speed. And was quite loose suprisingly, if you watch his fight vs George Chuvalo you'll see what i mean. It certainly shocked me when i see it.

And if anyone says George Foreman can't KO Wladimir Klitschko, late on because he had suspect stamina in the 70's and was too wild. Then i suggest you look at his win over a good boxer Gregorio Peralta, he stopped him in the 10th round, and Gregorio Peralta was a good boxer.

And eventually George Foreman would catch up to Wladimir Klitschko, there's no way Wladimir Klitschko would be able to fight the entire fight. Not getting hit with one of George Foreman's bombs, and it would only take one flush punch from George Foreman.

You're saying Foreman would beat Klitschko on the strength of Sultan Ibragimov? Do the two fight ANYTHING alike? Klitschko was cautious because he didn't know how good Sultan's chin was and he was good defensively. Sultan was waiting to load up with a hayemaker to try to take him out. Any fighter willing to stand and trade with Klitschko is in for a rude awakening. Klitschko is much better defensively than any incarnation of Foreman and he's also much lighter on his feet than any incarnation of Foreman. People who just stand in front of either fighter are going to lose badly and Klitschko prepares for every fighter. He would have been quick enough to give movement to George so he wouldn't have a standing target.

And let's not underrate Klitschko's power. Michael Moorer, as he put it, was crushing George before the KO came. Wlad would hit him even harder and actually pay attention to his defense. Sure, Foreman could have knocked him out had he landed a couple 1-2s, but Klitschko would have reduced the likelihood of that happening. In the meantime, any version of Foreman was hittable and I don't see Foreman lasting after 2 dozen or so of those straight rights landing flush.

No im basing it on every single Wladimir Klitschko fight since the Chris Byrd fight, and even then he was only more aggressive because Chris Byrd is a very small Heavyweight.

Prime Foreman would KO prime Wlad.

It would likely be a come from behind KO with Wlad outboxing him for most of the fight.

Wlad wouldn't last two rounds with a peak Foreman. Vlad isnt any good, so a prime Foreman would kick the fuck out of the china chinned muppet.

A prime Forman ko's Wladimir in 3 rounds soon as George landed a head shot Wlads legs would turn to jelly.Sam peters was a big puncher but very limited boxer he had Wlad all over the place soon as he landed.Forman was a beast he came into ring wanting to smash you to pieces i just see him getting to Wlad very early and ko'ing him imo.

the prime foreman would have walked thru wladimir,,no contest..one good shot by foreman and its all over...he would be shivering with fright before the fight began..I would put this fight in the same class as foreman vs norton

Honestly, I think George could win but I would give the edge to Wlad. His chin is suspect, sure, but he showed he can get up from a knock down as well, it's not like if he was only about paper mache neither. I would give him the edge in speed and movement and his deadly stinging jab would most definitely hurt Foreman but the guy can hit like a bull and in that respect, he would have a chance. Still, as far as I am concerned, ODD to Wlad.