Thread: Andre Ward Similar to Roy jones?

Listened to Tarver try to make that comparison during the broadcast tonight. I don't see any similarities between the two. Then he took his shot as usual. "Andre Ward is dominating better competition than Roy Jones"..

I think Ward is a quicker/cleaner version of BHop, don't see any RJJ likeness..

yea i was thinking the same thing, i mean only thing i could say he does like Jones is that he's always in place to throw shots, and well uses all types of angles to get shots in, but agree he looks like a cleaner version of Hopkins rather than Jones Jr

Ward is much more like B-Hop which is good, its a more reliable style and better suited for anyone that doesn't have Roy's physical gifts. He's nothing like Roy anymore.

Bernard when he was younger also threw a lot of punches so its not like comparing him to the old Bernard so much. Ward even has that throw the right hand and come in with the head down move. He's watched a lot of Hopkins fight tapes.

I think these guys just grab names out of the air with rising stars.Jones was an impactive hitter,much faster and dramatic for lack of a better term...dont think hes anywhere near the thinker and boxing 101 type Ward is.Ward is suprisingly cagey and does the small subtle things like a vet fighter...uses feints great and spins into counters,cuffs gloves off jab and 'pulls' guys into shots....tonight he really worked ropes big time.even holding arm and cracking with other.Dude is wise.

Ward is definitely comparable to B Hop. Andre definitely wont be winning any fight of the year awards soon. I actly found myself pulling for green in the middle rounds and I hate Allan Green.

What a terrible fight.

Andre Dirrell is going to put a beating on Andre Ward......

Do you think he could have just meant in terms of being a dominant force and a league above his competition?

As someone who has fought Jones three times, arguably winning every time I think Tarver is capable of understanding that their fighting styles aren't the same.

A prime Jones Jr is synomyous with domination and being untouchable which I guess is why he used him

Hopkins, although clearly more appropriate when comparing fight style, has a name that is often used negatively amongst fight fans and to say he was like BHop might not be taken as a compliment.

I don't see a problem with the Jones analogy really even though I agree they don't fight alike. Ward is starting to develop that aura of untouchableness now though like Roy imo.

No need to get hung up on semantics.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Do you think he could have just meant in terms of being a dominant force and a league above his competition?

As someone who has fought Jones three times, arguably winning every time I think Tarver is capable of understanding that their fighting styles aren't the same.

A prime Jones Jr is synomyous with domination and being untouchable which I guess is why he used him

Hopkins, although clearly more appropriate when comparing fight style, has a name that is often used negatively amongst fight fans and to say he was like BHop might not be taken as a compliment.

I don't see a problem with the Jones analogy really even though I agree they don't fight alike. Ward is starting to develop that aura of untouchableness now though like Roy imo.

No need to get hung up on semantics.

I don't know man, Ward looks great but at the same time he still looks beatable...

Yea the Hopkins comparision is spot on, Jones, not so much. When he was younger he idolized Ward and in the amateurs and in his first dozen or so fights that showed, but it's not the style he's best at. Ward is going to be good for a very long time with this style of his, he was in Green's doghouse the whole fight and turned a pitbull (in his own mind) into a poodle. I was at the fight live and really enjoyed it, didn't think it was a bad fight at all Ward dominated every second after the first round.

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Do you think he could have just meant in terms of being a dominant force and a league above his competition?

As someone who has fought Jones three times, arguably winning every time I think Tarver is capable of understanding that their fighting styles aren't the same.

A prime Jones Jr is synomyous with domination and being untouchable which I guess is why he used him

Hopkins, although clearly more appropriate when comparing fight style, has a name that is often used negatively amongst fight fans and to say he was like BHop might not be taken as a compliment.

I don't see a problem with the Jones analogy really even though I agree they don't fight alike. Ward is starting to develop that aura of untouchableness now though like Roy imo.

No need to get hung up on semantics.

I don't know man, Ward looks great but at the same time he still looks beatable...

I kind of agree with a but.

He looks to me like a great adaptive fighter, meaning he changes based on the man in front of him. PBF is the greatest of this era( though I'm not a fan.)

BTW, Green is a complete flake. My brother and I were ready to see him fight a couple of years ago in Marksville and he pulled out the day before. I'm still pissed!

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Do you think he could have just meant in terms of being a dominant force and a league above his competition?

As someone who has fought Jones three times, arguably winning every time I think Tarver is capable of understanding that their fighting styles aren't the same.

A prime Jones Jr is synomyous with domination and being untouchable which I guess is why he used him

Hopkins, although clearly more appropriate when comparing fight style, has a name that is often used negatively amongst fight fans and to say he was like BHop might not be taken as a compliment.

I don't see a problem with the Jones analogy really even though I agree they don't fight alike. Ward is starting to develop that aura of untouchableness now though like Roy imo.

No need to get hung up on semantics.

I don't see how he's untouchable. Great win vs. Kessler, but Calzaghe beat him more comprehensively and frankly I think Kessler is a bit past it. Look at some of his early fights and compare them to the Ward and Froch fights and he simply is not as accurate or sharp with his punches. Don't misunderstand, Ward is very talented and top ten p4p worthy....but prime Jones-like untouchable? Not even close. A I said earlier, let's see him and Dirrell. I think Dirrell stink him out ot a victory.

OK Calzaghe did not beat Kessler more comprehensively. Ward won arguably every round in his fight versus Kessler and pretty much dominated start to finish, Calzaghe lost almost all the early rounds and then once he made an adjustment, stuck behind his jab and began moving did he takeover that fight. Fair enough you think Kessler was past it but no way you can make the argument that Calzaghe beat him by a wider margin.

I also don't think Dirrell will beat Ward but to me it's the most intriguing fight of the whole tournament. If Dirrell doesn't beat him then no one will. Also, if Dirrell has to fight in Oakland then we will see how he lets the crowd get to him. He was very nervous and England and fought very jittery, Ward gameplans better then anyone in boxing at this point besides maybe Pacquiao and Mayweather, he's on par with those two and he's got a much better mental makeup then Dirrell. I will bet on the guy who hasn't lost in over 10 years in that one.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Do you think he could have just meant in terms of being a dominant force and a league above his competition?

As someone who has fought Jones three times, arguably winning every time I think Tarver is capable of understanding that their fighting styles aren't the same.

A prime Jones Jr is synonymous with domination and being untouchable which I guess is why he used him

Hopkins, although clearly more appropriate when comparing fight style, has a name that is often used negatively amongst fight fans and to say he was like BHop might not be taken as a compliment.

I don't see a problem with the Jones analogy really even though I agree they don't fight alike. Ward is starting to develop that aura of untouchableness now though like Roy imo.

No need to get hung up on semantics.

Well said as they did specify that like Roy then Ward comes out with something new all the time and surprises everyone with the added arsenol....Also they did make it clear Roy was more of a fighter who relied on strict athleticisim and Ward os more of an overall boxer....

So not as if they were saying he is an image of Jones just ability wise he seems to be able to add things better then most in a short amount of time doing it well

when ward first went pro he was compare to RJJ allot, he used to try to fight on the outside more than he does now, and in some of his early fights he did resemble RJJ, maybe tarver meant the athleticism or how dominant he is


ward is becoming hopkins with RJJs athleticism

Tarver's comments last night comparing Andre Ward to Roy Jones and saying that Ward is fighting better competition was one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard a boxing commentator say.

So Allan Green is a better fighter than James Toney ?!

Hell I'd go as far as to say that Thomas Tate and Merqui Sosa were better fighters than Allan Green.

Roy Jones Jr. took both men out in 2 rounds.

Andre Ward is a nice kid and a very good fighter, but he is NOWHERE NEAR the fighter Roy Jones Jr. was in his prime.

Lets not forget Roy Jones Jr. hardly ever lost a round and was P4P the best for a decade.

Andre Ward was dropped by Darnell Boone...

I haven't got a chance to watch it on tv yet....but i also heard tarver say he's coming back at heavy to take on the klitchko's......so he obviously was on something sat. Ward is absolutly nothing like jones.