Thread: Froch-Abraham - Nobody gives a monkeys? Fact.

There is not one thread about this fight (apart from a joint venture) on this board.

In the week of Haye-Harrison there were a billion threads per day started. No-one in Britain, apart from the hardcore, even knows this fight is happening, but it says a lot when the hardcore themselves were more interested in the Haye-Harrison "event"

For the record - Abraham wins by KO. Although Froch has a chance to bust him up early if he can get through the guard. Either way it should be a great fight.

Thoughts?

I think it's because everyone knows what to expect from the fight, it's gonna be a tear-up.

But that means people are less interested in great fights.

As you said, this looks a gauranteed tear-up, Haye-Harrison looked a guaranteed mismatch, yet Haye-Harrison had a billion times the attention on this forum. And this is a hardcore boxing forum. Just goes to shows....

Yeah I agree, no real favorite in this fight, both guys can really bring it and I think this has a chance to be not only FOTY but could be one of the better fights we've seen in the last few years!!! I'm really looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by Fenster

But that means people are less interested in great fights.

As you said, this looks a gauranteed tear-up, Haye-Harrison looked a guaranteed mismatch, yet Haye-Harrison had a billion times the attention on this forum. And this is a hardcore boxing forum. Just goes to shows....

The amount of attention the Haye fight got was a massive joke for what it ended up being, I know what your saying man. I think Froch VS Abraham is more for hardcore fans than casual, it's not been in the media over here. It actually angers me that Froch gets no mention in the news, he's been fighting a string of top opposition but gets no credit or exposure for it, at least over here.

Originally Posted by Kel

Originally Posted by Fenster

But that means people are less interested in great fights.

As you said, this looks a gauranteed tear-up, Haye-Harrison looked a guaranteed mismatch, yet Haye-Harrison had a billion times the attention on this forum. And this is a hardcore boxing forum. Just goes to shows....

The amount of attention the Haye fight got was a massive joke for what it ended up being, I know what your saying man. I think Froch VS Abraham is more for hardcore fans than casual, it's not been in the media over here. It actually angers me that Froch gets no mention in the news, he's been fighting a string of top opposition but gets no credit or exposure for it, at least over here.

Yeah, and screw the goddamn media. They play it's part in getting a fight put on the map and when it comes to fights like this there is no attention. Harrison/Haye was a shit fight from the go and anyone with an ounce of sense saw it, so for it to be hyped up was a joke. This on the other hand is a top fight between two very good pros. We don't know the result, and yet the coverage for boxing suddenly vanishes.

It shows you that Brits are often a bit thick when it comes to their boxing. Anyone that knows boxing appreciates this fight for what it is.

It's being talked about on other boards. Froch is a good fighter and the guy has faced a lot of great opposition already. Maybe it's the way he's promoted that's the problem?

Anyways should be a good fight.

Been looking forward to this one for a while now, expecting a war, fifty fifty fight for me, is Froch shop warn after Kessler n Pascal fights and can Abraham start fast enough and not just rely on a strong finish, can Carl take Arthurs best shots, does Arthur take Carls.

A combination of Froch's defense being his face and Abraham being able to hit incredibly hard makes me think Abraham gets the stoppage around round 7. Though Froch is more than capable of winning, especially if he can get through that guard regularly, or if he can get to the body often it could wear Abraham down

I am very interested in this fight and think it could be classic. Honestly, I cannot wait. We have a great weekend of boxing coming up.

Originally Posted by Dean Duke

Been looking forward to this one for a while now, expecting a war, fifty fifty fight for me, is Froch shop warn after Kessler n Pascal fights and can Abraham start fast enough and not just rely on a strong finish, can Carl take Arthurs best shots, does Arthur take Carls.

The problem is Froch takes a shit load of shots everytime he fights a world class fighter, I mean I'm still amazed at how he won the fight against Taylor. But thats what makes this fight so special IMO, you've got Abraham who has great power as shown vs Taylor and he also has a good solid defence due to his quite long forearms. He reminds me of Winky Wright for this, he had the long forearms and it made his opponents struggle to hit him to head or body. This will make it hard for Carl to land often which to me he needs to do to break Abraham down.

On the other side of the coin you have Froch who despite his lack of true classy technical skill has a will to win like not many others in the game today. He has a good solid chin but even when that does crack (and it has been) his heart takes over and pushes him to move on and survive. This cannot be taught, it is something you either have or don't. The problem though for me is everybody has a limit to how much punishment they can take before their body starts wilting under pressure and I'm not sure now how much more Froch can take, his style is not one that makes for a long career at the top of boxing and I think Abraham might just be the one to exploit this fact. One thing I will say though is Carl has the power if he lands enough, I'm just not sure he will.

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by Dean Duke

Been looking forward to this one for a while now, expecting a war, fifty fifty fight for me, is Froch shop warn after Kessler n Pascal fights and can Abraham start fast enough and not just rely on a strong finish, can Carl take Arthurs best shots, does Arthur take Carls.

The problem is Froch takes a shit load of shots everytime he fights a world class fighter, I mean I'm still amazed at how he won the fight against Taylor. But thats what makes this fight so special IMO, you've got Abraham who has great power as shown vs Taylor and he also has a good solid defence due to his quite long forearms. He reminds me of Winky Wright for this, he had the long forearms and it made his opponents struggle to hit him to head or body. This will make it hard for Carl to land often which to me he needs to do to break Abraham down.

On the other side of the coin you have Froch who despite his lack of true classy technical skill has a will to win like not many others in the game today. He has a good solid chin but even when that does crack (and it has been) his heart takes over and pushes him to move on and survive. This cannot be taught, it is something you either have or don't. The problem though for me is everybody has a limit to how much punishment they can take before their body starts wilting under pressure and I'm not sure now how much more Froch can take, his style is not one that makes for a long career at the top of boxing and I think Abraham might just be the one to exploit this fact. One thing I will say though is Carl has the power if he lands enough, I'm just not sure he will.

I agree with you. Froch is almost guaranteed to take some heavy shots in every fight hes in, and AA has some serious one punch KO power. Dirrell got past AAs gaurd because he was switching up angles all the time and I do not think Froch will do that.

I think it's down to Froch not being a great self promoter maybe. There isn't anything about his personality that really resonates good or bad.

When you look at some of our more popular fighters, they had divisive or strong personalities, and people WANT to see them either win big or get smashed up.

Look at Amir Khan and Audley Harrison, both figures with a lot of hate. Ricky Hatton had his grating man of the people act that many people adored and he was a popular personality, as were Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank before them.

Joe Calzaghe meanwhile was never really a massive household name until he smashed up Jeff Lacy about 24 years into his world title reign. He didn't have the abrasive or controversial personality of the others to make him famous for a long long time.

Froch is like that. An ordinary white boy. Fighters need some colour, in every sense, to make people care about them one way or the other imo.

He will only get start to get a big name if he wins the Super Six.

I'm really looking forward to this fight, I hope Froch can pull it off. It should be an epic fight!

I thought it was next weekend until the threads appeared, but I also forget birthdays and things, so dates not my speciality.

For some reason I just begrudge Showtime. Don't know why.

Now you mention it, it is daft that I'll happily pay to watch Haye vs Harrison which I knew would be farcical, yet dislike Showtime enough to watch this on a stream.

Originally Posted by Fenster

There is not one thread about this fight (apart from a joint venture) on this board.

In the week of Haye-Harrison there were a billion threads per day started. No-one in Britain, apart from the hardcore, even knows this fight is happening, but it says a lot when the hardcore themselves were more interested in the Haye-Harrison "event"

For the record - Abraham wins by KO. Although Froch has a chance to bust him up early if he can get through the guard. Either way it should be a great fight.

Thoughts?

I just posted up some channels that are showing it but the lack of TV exposure is shocking.

Gotta feel for Froch really... he's an honest fighter and genuine World Class.

He always comes to fight unlike some other fighters we could mention

Abrahams power could give him real problems but remember Froch has a tough chin and has obvious physical advantages.

Can see this being a belter and once again the UK armchair fans will miss out on another great fight.

You'd have thought someone (Sky/ITV) would have got right behind him after the Pascal fight which was a great scrap.