Thread: Martinez-Cotto talks off

Bob Arum didn't want to co-promote (so he can keep all the money himself), and Martinez and Dibella said no way they were going to let him buy out Martinez. So he will put together Cotto-Margs II nezt year.

"He'll fight Margarito," Arum said of Cotto. "Margarito is going to get a physical to determine when he can fight. The earlier we can do it, the better."

Sergio Martinez-Miguel Cotto fight talks called off due to money split - ESPN

Martinez made 1M in his last fight.


Arum's offer was 2.5M plus PPV's share.


Cotto is more marketable than Martinez. therefore Martinez is the 'opponent' in terms of selling the fight.


Who is available besides pac, floyd and Cotto that would convince HBO to give a ppv date for Martinez? Martinez vs Williams isnt even on PPV.

People will hate Arum for wanting more money over DiBella who also wants more money

The promoter who has the bigger draw will always have the upper hand in negotiation.


2.5M + % of the PPV buys i believe is a FAIR purse for Martinez at this point. He can command a higher amount if he beats Cotto so why rush it?

but Martinez is arguably the fighter of the year, and reigning Lineal Middleweight champion of the world, Bob Arum is getting all this backlash cause he deserves it, why? because he refuses to put his fighters against fighters who aren't under the Top Rank banner, costing fight fans fights that they want to see

If that's the reason why the talks are off, then a possible Martinez vs Pacman is off too. That's why the UFC have better match ups. One person makes the call!!!

Besides, Arum will be smart to have Cotto vs Margarito 2. Cause fighting Martinez will end Cotto's demand as a headliner fighter. Martinez will get in that _____! At lease if Cotto vs Margarito comes to light, Arum could make more money on the winners' next opponent.

Another note, who else can Margarito fight that can generate money? Cintron? Williams? Martinez? None IMO. And might lose to any of the three.

Arum is a smart business man. Bad for fight fans.

Martinez, in my humble opinion, gains absolutely nothing, in boxing terms for fighting a shot Miguel Cotto at LM or Middle. Purely a "cash in" situation and nothing more. Martinez is on top of the world, Cotto has been totally and utterly battered half to death in recent fights. Martinez starches Cotto inside 6 and proves only that Cotto's face can look terrible when he's taken one too many shots.

Originally Posted by Ant Live

That's why the UFC have better match ups. One person makes the call!!!

I know what your getting at but it doesnt work like that, in fact its exactly the same situation as Bob Arums fighters only fighting each other.

UFC is just one promoter who has fighters signed under its banner, not an organisation any fighter can fight for like the WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO. They only fight other UFC signed fighters. They dont fight Strikeforce fighters like Fedor or Overeem because they would have to share the promotion.

Its a shame that MMA isnt more like boxing in fact because then you could have a world wide MMA title that is available for anyone to fight for and then the promoters just have to bid to stage the fight, like they do in boxing.

Originally Posted by miron_lang

Martinez made 1M in his last fight.


Arum's offer was 2.5M plus PPV's share.


Cotto is more marketable than Martinez. therefore Martinez is the 'opponent' in terms of selling the fight.


Who is available besides pac, floyd and Cotto that would convince HBO to give a ppv date for Martinez? Martinez vs Williams isnt even on PPV.

That stunning KO gave him leverage to get a ppv for the next show, although I admit, Martinez is a tougher sell than he should be.

as a cotto fan i'm gald it didnt happen, i'm also hoping he retires rather then fight again tho i can understand him wanting a fight with margarito again.....if the sums spoken are true,,,2.5m plus ppv % then martinez is a silly boy for not saying yes.....thats about the same amount hes made in the last 10 years with the ppv kicking in.....at 35, to make in one night what you've made in your whole career some 45 fights is stupid to say no.....silly boy