Thread: Opinion from a "Pactard"

For years Manny has been accused of fighting come forward aggressive fighters who wanted to trade shots with Manny fighting toe to toe, the often result they're getting their asses ktfo. Last night we have a bigger fighter with equally fast hands, more power and granite chin dropped on his back and decided to counter punch instead of trading with PAC, admittedly after the fight Shane said if he threw more punches and traded might get himself kayoed. Now with that mentality we STILL COMPLAIN of the result, is not that hypocritic? I do believe that if Shane did trade with Manny he would get ktfo.

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what.

Shane was honest and thats why many have so much respect for him.

Pac didn't look like he was 100% but he still dominated.

Pac may be slowing down and age may also be catching up with him. God knows there no boxer with a schedule like pacs. He lives many life all at the same time but manages to balance it but for how much longer can he do that?

I just hope this fight will give Floyd some balls to fight pac. Hopefully he does believe pac is slowing down and all of the war and busy lifestyle are catching up with Pac.

My own view isthat Manny is a boxing marvel and most criticism of him is unfounded. Having said that, Shane is a shell of himself and all last night showed me is Father Time might be onto Manny. .

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

The win itself does little to add to pacs resume but the fact that pac dropped and had Shane worried of getting ko'ed adds on to pacs ring reputation.

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

The win itself does little to add to pacs resume but the fact that pac dropped and had Shane worried of getting ko'ed adds on to pacs ring reputation.

Yes, an aging down-the-hill guy getting worried of getting ko-ed. I'll give you that, he was on survival mode for 12 rounds. He only threw an effective straight right on round 1 that connected pac to his chin but didn't follow up or throw anything else after that.

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Just watched it and I really think Mosleys power play a factor in manny's pace but apart from that Manny won every round and scored a KD... not alot more he could have done considering the massive size difference.

the fight lacked the excitment of a pac fight but you have to put into prespective of what he's doing here

It's an OK win for Pacquiao, but not however, very competitive, entertaining, or exciting. I wish the fight had never been made in the first place, Mosley had just come off 2 stinkers with Mayweather and Mora, so his performance was predictable. I thought right from the get go, that there was never a question about Pacquiao winning, but whether or not he stopped Mosley.

Originally Posted by Saddo

Just watched it and I really think Mosleys power play a factor in manny's pace but apart from that Manny won every round and scored a KD... not alot more he could have done considering the massive size difference.

the fight lacked the excitment of a pac fight but you have to put into prespective of what he's doing here

nailed it!!!

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Chino

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

The win itself does little to add to pacs resume but the fact that pac dropped and had Shane worried of getting ko'ed adds on to pacs ring reputation.

Yes, an aging down-the-hill guy getting worried of getting ko-ed. I'll give you that, he was on survival mode for 12 rounds. He only threw an effective straight right on round 1 that connected pac to his chin but didn't follow up or throw anything else after that.

Even at this late stage of Shanes career, who else do you think can drop him like that?

Its the 2nd stage of Pacquiao's career


1st Stage - He's one dimensional, He'll get schooled by this and that fighter. he'll get totally destroyed by this and that fighter.


2nd Stage - He's roiding and Cherry picking. He cherry picked this and that fighter because they are slow and 20lbs heavier than him. He only fights weight drained and shot fighters.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.