Thread: Roy post fight?

anyone know if he's made an appearance since the lebedev fight? i wanna hear from the guy

He was commentating the chavez jr zbik fight and came off like he had lost his marbles arguing that chavez jr was a legit champ.

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by fan johnny

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by fan johnny

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

The WBC is a joke. They stripped Martinez and had no valid reason. All designed to allow Chavez Jr. a title shot that was winnable.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by fan johnny

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

Martinez held the WBC Middleweight title after he beat Pavlik, the lineal champion, and was stripped for no reason other so that Chavez Jr could win a "world" title, if Chavez Jr really wanted the WBC title he should have fought it's rightful owner in Sergio Martinez, it's not a coincidence that Sulaiman is best friends with Chavez Sr, and if you want to go by your little explanation of what a champion is, then Pacquiao shouldn't be considered champion at 154, 147, 140, 135, hell not even at 130, he never unified any division, the same ideology should apply to everyone

Some belts can mean something, but the second that belt was taken from martinez outside the ring over bullshit politics it became worthless. No hate for junior here tho because it was just as worthless in zbik's hands.