Thread: Barrera vs. Princess Hamed

Barrera seemed to genuinely hate Hamed, I loved the little touch by Barrera toward the end of the 12th round when he escorts Princess to a corner and jams her head into the turnbuckle. It was pretty obvious that Hamed wasn't prepared for what MAB brought to the dance.

Highlights:

I liked hamed he was totally different to anyone ive seen before!! Ok he was probaly the biggest mouth and piss taker aswel! But he always backed up his mouth. (bar mab but he was the best around!) ive read hamed life story, brendan ingle quoted 'the only person to beat naz will be himself' and the way he goes in the book driving cars stupidly not training properly and not listening to his trainers all lead to naz getting a boxing lesson from mab!! Shame he never came back with a clear refreshed mindset, i think he'd lost interest in the sport long before the mab fight

Originally Posted by Taffturner

I liked hamed he was totally different to anyone ive seen before!! Ok he was probaly the biggest mouth and piss taker aswel! But he always backed up his mouth. (bar mab but he was the best around!) ive read hamed life story, brendan ingle quoted 'the only person to beat naz will be himself' and the way he goes in the book driving cars stupidly not training properly and not listening to his trainers all lead to naz getting a boxing lesson from mab!! Shame he never came back with a clear refreshed mindset, i think he'd lost interest in the sport long before the mab fight

I can't recall another flamboyant Pug, who had such an unorthodox boxing style. Hamed was very effective with it until he ran into the no nonsense seasoned Pro Barrera, who had a field day picking Hamed apart.
George Foreman absolutely loved Hamed and his style, I think he was sick after this fight, he just couldn't believe his boy lost like he did.

People have tried to be like naz, witter tried, kahn had a brief go, naz pulled off the style and beat alot of top fighters.......

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Originally Posted by Taffturner

I liked hamed he was totally different to anyone ive seen before!! Ok he was probaly the biggest mouth and piss taker aswel! But he always backed up his mouth. (bar mab but he was the best around!) ive read hamed life story, brendan ingle quoted 'the only person to beat naz will be himself' and the way he goes in the book driving cars stupidly not training properly and not listening to his trainers all lead to naz getting a boxing lesson from mab!! Shame he never came back with a clear refreshed mindset, i think he'd lost interest in the sport long before the mab fight

I can't recall another flamboyant Pug, who had such an unorthodox boxing style. Hamed was very effective with it until he ran into the no nonsense seasoned Pro Barrera, who had a field day picking Hamed apart.
George Foreman absolutely loved Hamed and his style, I think he was sick after this fight, he just could believe his boy lost like he did.

Hamed had an awfully good career.

What kills me is he had ATG physical gifts and just not an ATG mind or desire.

MAB? Physical gifts not quite at Hamed's level, but his craft and desire were on another planet.

There is no reason to demean Hamed by calling him Princess. Not valuable boxing criticism at all.

He provided a dangerous and unorthodox approach which made his fights interesting as hell. Thing about unschooled and unorthodox combined with lots of natural ability is that it will do very well when it has lots of energy going but it will always lose to the best schooled orthodoxy carefully applied by a master.

Barrera proves it.

It is indeed regretable that Hamed didn't take that wild natural ability and, without losing his unorthodox infusion of energy and angles, also learn the science.

He had a wicked talent and mistook that for an invincibility provided by Allah. It was not; at least, not in the way he believed.

I am more a fan of MAB than of Hamed but did enjoy watching Hamed fight and was disappointed to see him unable to handle a loss and to see him abandon boxing when Allah did not ensure a victory in every fight. MAB, Allah and the science of boxing all deserve more investment, humility and respect than Hamed was able to bring.

Originally Posted by Taffturner

I liked hamed he was totally different to anyone ive seen before!! Ok he was probaly the biggest mouth and piss taker aswel! But he always backed up his mouth. (bar mab but he was the best around!) ive read hamed life story, brendan ingle quoted 'the only person to beat naz will be himself' and the way he goes in the book driving cars stupidly not training properly and not listening to his trainers all lead to naz getting a boxing lesson from mab!! Shame he never came back with a clear refreshed mindset, i think he'd lost interest in the sport long before the mab fight

yeah naz was superb, we'll never have a fighter like him again

IMO he'd of beaten barrera had he put the effort in but its one of those things that no one will ever be sure about

was barrera just better than naz or was it because naz didnt train properly

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by Taffturner

I liked hamed he was totally different to anyone ive seen before!! Ok he was probaly the biggest mouth and piss taker aswel! But he always backed up his mouth. (bar mab but he was the best around!) ive read hamed life story, brendan ingle quoted 'the only person to beat naz will be himself' and the way he goes in the book driving cars stupidly not training properly and not listening to his trainers all lead to naz getting a boxing lesson from mab!! Shame he never came back with a clear refreshed mindset, i think he'd lost interest in the sport long before the mab fight

yeah naz was superb, we'll never have a fighter like him again

IMO he'd of beaten barrera had he put the effort in but its one of those things that no one will ever be sure about

was barrera just better than naz or was it because naz didnt train properly

Barrera was just better. Hamed looked very much in shape going in. And he stated several times that he indeed was in the best shape of his career going into the Barrera fight. Fact.

So all that bullshit about Hamed not being in shape was just that. Bullshit. Bullshit that the Hamed followers lie about cuz they can't accept the fact that he got punked by a past his prime Barrera.

It always seemed to me, that because of Hamed's unorthodox style, the 1st really talented, world class, boxer/puncher that came along would school him. Which as it turned out, was exactly what happened.

Bottom line: Hamed was another case of an overhyped fighter, with little real boxing skill, who got exposed.

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Barrera seemed to genuinely hate Hamed, I loved the little touch by Barrera toward the end of the 12th round when he escorts Princess to a corner and jams her head into the turnbuckle. It was pretty obvious that Hamed wasn't prepared for what MAB brought to the dance.

Highlights:

Hamed was totally out of his depth against an elite fighter like Barrera, Morales would've done the same thing to him. The Prince entered the ring that night and left it as a toad!

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Barrera seemed to genuinely hate Hamed, I loved the little touch by Barrera toward the end of the 12th round when he escorts Princess to a corner and jams her head into the turnbuckle. It was pretty obvious that Hamed wasn't prepared for what MAB brought to the dance.

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thanks for the vid , hahah i had forgotten how much I hated Hamed and how good that fight was.

Hameds style may have worked better vs Marquez or Morales but we'll never know. Erik was more open to punches than Marco and Marquez back when he was losing to guys like Norwood couldnt take a shot as well as Marco and may have to get off the floor afew times like he did against Pac if Nas landed clean.

We never got to see those fights because the loss took alot from Nas. Once that Aura left him and he realised his god would allow him to lose then he didnt want to risk it again with anyone better than Manuel Calvo but as we saw in his farewell fight the fans wouldnt stand for that and booed him into retirement. Sad way for a great story to end.

It was the right plan executed to a T.

Morales would have come to scrap. Not sure about Marquez.

Well done to MAB for the great win but that was not the Prince on form!

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

It was the right plan executed to a T.

Morales would have come to scrap. Not sure about Marquez.

Agreed. Morales would have gone to war and that would have either spelled bad news for Hamed or it would have played right into his hands. Zahir Raheem was a southpaw without Hameds power but fundamentally he may have been better than the prince even though he had nowhere near the same success. I think Raheem got Morales at the right time. He was coming off the Pac win but still in decline IMO.