Thread: Thoughts on Pac/JMM

I was blown away by this fight, thought it was far and away the best of the four, just for the sheer drama of the ending. Credit to Marquez, his punching looked HEAVY, but Pacman - for whatever reason - is slipping, you could see it in the third Marquez fight and the Bradley fight.

Wrote a bit about it on my blog:-

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Hi greig,

Well done for the blog.

I tend to think that manny fought very well and was still as fast as he always was with that same incredible power.

He was winning on all scorecards and after knocking down marquez and breaking his nose he seemed very confident.

Marquez timed the shot perfectly and knocked him out.

If manny is slipping then marquez is slipping twice as much as he is 40 years old and is not as used to the weight as manny is.

Like i said before on other threads if manny had fought another clotty or hatton type fighter after margarito we would still be singing his praises as he walks through these opponents.

The opponent should deserve all the praise..so well done old marquez.

Clotty, oscar, margarito, hatton and cotto do not fight like marquez...if they did we would have had a lot of rematches going on.

i cant help but think that if it wasnt for all this talk of were gonna knock him out this time, mannys gonna finish him when he gets him hurt and all that from roach then manny would be the winner again

he over commited because of this and got caught

manny had won 2 out of the 3 previous fights (close contraversial or not) so why change a winning formula

For me the telling thing that gave away the fact that Pac is slipping was not the knockout, but rather the knockdown in round three. I mean, seriously, you could see that punch from a mile away but it's like Pac lost focus for a second and didn't see it coming. A punch of that speed (certainly not thrown with Mosley or Mayweather sharpness) from that distance should have not got through IMO, and is a worrying sign.

Originally Posted by Greig

For me the telling thing that gave away the fact that Pac is slipping was not the knockout, but rather the knockdown in round three. I mean, seriously, you could see that punch from a mile away but it's like Pac lost focus for a second and didn't see it coming. A punch of that speed (certainly not thrown with Mosley or Mayweather sharpness) from that distance should have not got through IMO, and is a worrying sign.

The knockdown in rd 3 could have been seen a mile way but pac probably didnt expect it to have all that power behind it.

He underestimated marquez.

Mayweather, marquez and manny are all slipping..its all relative.

Spot on. I thought Manny looked pretty good and I was worried about Marquez.

Lets take the spectacular faceplant sparkage out of the picture and assume Marquez cant splat him with a single hit. I think Manny slowly but surely would have busted him up and we'd all be saying how great he looked. 3rd round knockdown....meh, its only become a talking point because he got ironed out.