Thread: Soldier butchered in street in Woolwich

Very Sad and disturbing. I have also noticed that a lot of racist ignorance has now flooded social networks as though being black, calling yourself a Muslim or not being white has anything to do with it. White Christians murder people too. They are sick, mentally unhinged, hate filled violent and cowardly scum. Spouting similar intolerant hatred isn't helping anyone. It just reveals your own prejudices.

This is just awful.
And I hated the reaction it caused in me. For the first time ever I felt a bubbling of predjudice and ignorant anger. It kept me awake much of the night last night. I'm just telling myself that the number of Muslims that would support something like this is statistically minute. But also, it does nobody any favours to ignore that that percentage is higher than it would be for Hindus, Christians etc.

To butcher and murder someone in such a way just proves you are a sick mentalist and anything else you care to spout after doing so is just propaganda. Calling them "muslim extremists" is just lending them justification for what is a cowardly act of violence. They represent nobody.

shocking sad news.

R.I.P

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

To butcher and murder someone in such a way just proves you are a sick mentalist and anything else you care to spout after doing so is just propaganda. Calling them "muslim extremists" is just lending them justification for what is a cowardly act of violence. They represent nobody.

Ok, but however wrong they are for doing so, they did do it in the name of Islam.
More people commit these types of atrocities in the name of Islam than do in the name of any other religion or cause. We should try to understand why. Not pretend that that isnt true. I hate prejudice in all its forms. These two people are deranged and deluded. They would have done evil things whether they were Muslims or not. They would have found another cause to kill for.
I think it's basically - A mentalist + Muslim grievences + radical teaching + sections of the Qu'ran relating to martyrdom = The rare incidents of attacks in the name of Islam.

I think it speaks volumes about how people have been raised in this country over the last few decades. A British soldier is killed by 2 vile pieces of shit in broad daylight who shout about how it's a repsonse to wars abroad, eye for an eye etc, and all the little white lapdogs run to the internet with the usual limp wristed "oh, you can't blame all foreigners, oh, white people kill people too, oh, what about the west bank and gaza strip?" excuses and grovelling. We've got a nation of bitches now, people who'd get on their knees and lick a muslims balls rather than risk offending them.

Originally Posted by Larryboy

I think it speaks volumes about how people have been raised in this country over the last few decades. A British soldier is killed by 2 vile pieces of shit in broad daylight who shout about how it's a repsonse to wars abroad, eye for an eye etc, and all the little white lapdogs run to the internet with the usual limp wristed "oh, you can't blame all foreigners, oh, white people kill people too, oh, what about the west bank and gaza strip?" excuses and grovelling. We've got a nation of bitches now, people who'd get on their knees and lick a muslims balls rather than risk offending them.

You sound angry about it, thats to be expected everyone is but what can you do? Knowing too well there are some very good people in each race and every religion.

Originally Posted by Larryboy

I think it speaks volumes about how people have been raised in this country over the last few decades. A British soldier is killed by 2 vile pieces of shit in broad daylight who shout about how it's a repsonse to wars abroad, eye for an eye etc, and all the little white lapdogs run to the internet with the usual limp wristed "oh, you can't blame all foreigners, oh, white people kill people too, oh, what about the west bank and gaza strip?" excuses and grovelling. We've got a nation of bitches now, people who'd get on their knees and lick a muslims balls rather than risk offending them.

I thought I was the only one that thought like this, when did the white British men loose their balls and their brains? Because we sure as hell wernt like this a few generations ago. Its like most white British people are pro everyone but themselves. I find it very odd. I wonder if its the media "brainwashing" us in the hope we all get along and the "brainwashing" is having unexpected negative effects.

Is like are you from Africa? Do you want to come on in and sell drugs to us, rape some white women, spead AIDS, cut some white men up, mung off the benifits system, and get free food and shelter in prison instead of being shipped back to Africa, ok well come on in then, if anyone says anything they will be branded a racist (I will probably be banned from this forum after saying this) I mean its just common sense but everyone seems to be intent on allowing people that hate us to continue to do us harm while sympathising with them and comming down harshly/cutting out those that stand up for white people. F this country, im out. Im going to Australia they still have their balls attatched.

Africans had black slaves before we did and if they could inslave the white man they would and they would be alot more cruel than we were. Dont believe me then check out what they do to each other in Africa.

As for the terrorists at least we are fighting them, standing up so to speak.

Originally Posted by ryanman

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

To butcher and murder someone in such a way just proves you are a sick mentalist and anything else you care to spout after doing so is just propaganda. Calling them "muslim extremists" is just lending them justification for what is a cowardly act of violence. They represent nobody.

Ok, but however wrong they are for doing so, they did do it in the name of Islam.
More people commit these types of atrocities in the name of Islam than do in the name of any other religion or cause. We should try to understand why. Not pretend that that isnt true. I hate prejudice in all its forms. These two people are deranged and deluded. They would have done evil things whether they were Muslims or not. They would have found another cause to kill for.
I think it's basically - A mentalist + Muslim grievences + radical teaching + sections of the Qu'ran relating to martyrdom = The rare incidents of attacks in the name of Islam.

All Muslims need to demand these kinds of people are never allowed into a mosque again ever. If they do it publicly and stand up against those who continue to do evil acts in Gods name, including child rape via underage marriages and mutilation of young girls private parts in that backward practice.
Then I and others may believe they are real about their so called religion of peace.

To be fair, some African Christian tribes that still practice child marriage need to be excommunicated as well.

Originally Posted by ryanman

This is just awful.
And I hated the reaction it caused in me. For the first time ever I felt a bubbling of predjudice and ignorant anger. It kept me awake much of the night last night. I'm just telling myself that the number of Muslims that would support something like this is statistically minute. But also, it does nobody any favours to ignore that that percentage is higher than it would be for Hindus, Christians etc.

There is a higher percentage of Muslims who supports this stuff compared to Hindus and Christians. But that's because Muslims are being bombed and killed in over a dozen conflicts worldwide right now. The United States has killed Muslim women and children in eight different countries in the past few years. Muslims are being killed by a Buddhist majority in Burma right now. If Christians and Hindus were being killed al over the globe by other religions then you'd see exactly the same amount of militancy/terrorism/ whatever from those religions.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

There is a higher percentage of Muslims who supports this stuff compared to Hindus and Christians. But that's because Muslims are being bombed and killed in over a dozen conflicts worldwide right now. The United States has killed Muslim women and children in eight different countries in the past few years. Muslims are being killed by a Buddhist majority in Burma right now. If Christians and Hindus were being killed al over the globe by other religions then you'd see exactly the same amount of militancy/terrorism/ whatever from those religions.

....and the Jews? They always get off scot free those lucky bastards!


The Muslims dug their own hole with the US from the very START. Sure SOME Muslim nations were among the very first to recognize the United States as a sovereign nation, but the Barbary Pirates tried to strong arm the US into paying for passage and the newly founded United States Marine Corps got their first big taste of action in the First & Second Barbary Wars where the Devil Dogs stomped a mudhole in their asses.

Now has the US had it's poor run of plays in Muslim nations, sure as fuck we have but who hasn't? I mean everybody 100% of any kind of world power has had issues with the Muslims/Persians/Arabs going back to the days of Greece and Rome.

At the risk of being crucified and I touched on this in the Boston bombing thread these kinds of things are long overdue and to be perfectly honest have been almost predictable for years.
The West has this attitude that somehow our lives mean more is some grand scheme. Well they don’t and we sit around and for the most part live out our lives with little fear of being violently killed. Anybody here know the death toll of innocent people killed in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many wedding parties were crashed by bombs wiping out entire families for generations? When we cover such acts it’s written off if addressed at all as the costs of war or national interest or unfortunate mistakes. Its naïve to think that we as citizens will not pay for the actions we are indirectly involved in under the guise of foreign policy.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

At the risk of being crucified and I touched on this in the Boston bombing thread these kinds of things are long overdue and to be perfectly honest have been almost predictable for years.
The West has this attitude that somehow our lives mean more is some grand scheme. Well they don’t and we sit around and for the most part live out our lives with little fear of being violently killed. Anybody here know the death toll of innocent people killed in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many wedding parties were crashed by bombs wiping out entire families for generations? When we cover such acts it’s written off if addressed at all as the costs of war or national interest or unfortunate mistakes. Its naïve to think that we as citizens will not pay for the actions we are indirectly involved in under the guise of foreign policy.

Ok, granted, and I do bear this in mind. But when an angry British/US/Australian etc citizen in the middle east actively seeks out and and kills a completely innocent citizen of that country then that is a fair comparison. Not all killing is equal I'm afraid. Some may say that the fact this guy is a solider somehow makes it more legitimate (which is clearly bullshit in this case) but then they can have no such vindication for 9/11 and 7/7 for example. These attacks would only make any sense (yet would still be disgusting and wrong) if they only targeted military and government infrastructure/personnel. But they don't. When justifying killing our innocents by saying that their innocents are killed daily they are missing the point. Our governments taking actions that result in innocent Muslims being killed is wrong. We all know this and try to feel their pain. But then PURPOSEFULLY attacking our innocents (that do not support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq) is not a like-for-like action. Over one million British citizens marched on the streets of London protesting against the war in Iraq, yet jihadists believe that they are still legitmate targets.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

At the risk of being crucified and I touched on this in the Boston bombing thread these kinds of things are long overdue and to be perfectly honest have been almost predictable for years.
The West has this attitude that somehow our lives mean more is some grand scheme. Well they don’t and we sit around and for the most part live out our lives with little fear of being violently killed. Anybody here know the death toll of innocent people killed in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many wedding parties were crashed by bombs wiping out entire families for generations? When we cover such acts it’s written off if addressed at all as the costs of war or national interest or unfortunate mistakes. Its naïve to think that we as citizens will not pay for the actions we are indirectly involved in under the guise of foreign policy.

War has changed THIS MUCH....

The Blitz on the UK- just over 8 months 40,000-43,000 civilian deaths
Dresden - 4 bombing raids death toll 22,000-25,000 civilian deaths
Okinawa - 4/1/45-6/22/45 between 42,000-150,000 civilian deaths
Hiroshima - 1 bomb 90,000-160,000 civilian deaths
Nagasaki - 1 bomb 60,000-80,000 civilian deaths

Iraq War - Wikileaks/Classified Iraq War Logs 1/2004-12/2009 66,081 civilian deaths

As for Afghanistan According to the United Nations, the Taliban were responsible for 76% of civilian casualties in Afghanistan in 2009, 75% in 2010 and 80% in 2011


Seriously?.......Seriously? Hey and are the US, Japan, England, Germany resentful towards each other? Have they attacked each other since then? NO....the Muzzies have to get some thicker skin for the love of fuck



Yes I'll catch heat for this but war is war, it ain't patty cake its deadly and it's supposed to be