Thread: Vasyl Lomachenko, real deal..?

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

He is not better than Rigo and nonito or anything but he's good.

Im more impressed by russell and felix verdejo

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

I'm with you. Was very impressed by him. Good power. Impressive speed. Good composure. Has that good arrogance where he knows he's good. I'm expecting big things from him as well

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

He is not better than Rigo and nonito or anything but he's good.

Im more impressed by russell and felix verdejo

Russell just doesn't seem to wanna fight anybody with a pulse. Verdejo ain't fighting nothing but bums. As a former Olympian, he should be fighting better opposition. I think there gonna be extra careful with Verdejo considering every recent Puerto Rican prospect has crashed and burned when it was time to step up. Some weren't even stepping it up when they were exposed.

You know what VD, I'm getting sick of your ignorant double standards and I don't give a flying f*ck who in here doesn't want anymore P.R.-Mexican battles. They don't like it.... they can go to hell.

Canelo Alvarez's opponents had the following records in his first 8 fights:

0-1
0-1
debut
0-0-1
3-5
2-2
1-1
4-5

All from the comforts of little ol' Jalisco, Mexico. I could go on..... but I assume you can read and can see for yourself what he followed that lineup with. And yet.... Canelito can do no wrong. At least Verdejo has ventured outside his own backyard, unlike some of your coddled Mexican fighters.

You're a f*cking buffoon who tries to intimidate, and it comically seems to work with some idiots in here. Me..... I keep showing you up for the brainless moron you are.

Carry on, f*ckwad.

Wow hey lets take our shitfest into a thread about a ukrainian fighter, ya'll would find a way to make shit about mexico-puerto rico if the topic was about german shepard dogs...wtf. Yall just argue the same shit over and over again vd "man puerto ricans are bitches and fags wit no heart, they always be quitin like chumps" tito "man puerto ricans at least fight someone before their 50th fight, margarito used plaster, cotto is amazin" seriously yall dont get borred with it?

You're right. Let's move this thread to Let's Get it On also.

And no I don't get bored. Violet talks shit.... I answer.
Someone needs to put the little bitch in her place.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

You know what VD, I'm getting sick of your ignorant double standards and I don't give a flying f*ck who in here doesn't want anymore P.R.-Mexican battles. They don't like it.... they can go to hell.

Canelo Alvarez's opponents had the following records in his first 8 fights:

0-1
0-1
debut
0-0-1
3-5
2-2
1-1
4-5

All from the comforts of little ol' Jalisco, Mexico. I could go on..... but I assume you can read and can see for yourself what he followed that lineup with. And yet.... Canelito can do no wrong. At least Verdejo has ventured outside his own backyard, unlike some of your coddled Mexican fighters.

You're a f*cking buffoon who tries to intimidate, and it comically seems to work with some idiots in here. Me..... I keep showing you up for the brainless moron you are.

Carry on, f*ckwad.

Canelo was 16 when he went pro so u can't really use him as a comparison

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

He is not better than Rigo and nonito or anything but he's good.

Im more impressed by russell and felix verdejo

What are you basing this on? I'm curious. He was regarded by most as the best fighter ever in the amateurs. He beat a decent fighter in his first pro and looked impressive doing so. He is fighting a solid fighter for a world title in his 2nd where he will be a massive betting favorite. Can't really see how you have men more impressed with Russell or Verdejo. As for not being as good as Nonito or Rigo only time will tell but there is very little between them in my eyes and given his size advantage over Rigo he will have a very good chance v him if the fight does go ahead in the next year or so

All I know is I'm in for a laugh when a half mexican half puerto rican fighter comes along and becomes champ and claims both heritages.

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

Tough question. He's got skills in excess. Its kind of a mirror image of what Arum did with Rigo. We expected him to be fast tracked especially because of age and he was not. Opposite look here for a much younger man. Its kind of brilliant really because even if he loses its not a career ender. He challenged for a world title in his second pro fight.

I think its a mistake to make the fight but who knows. Salido is so tough. He will prepare for this like no other. Even Lamotta beat Robinson once.

Btw I've been trying to find out what Lomachenko's reach is and cant find it anywhere. It's got to be mid 70's.

It's hard to say. He has all the talent to do great things but has has many flaws from gearing his tendencies to be effective in the amateurs. The question is can he make the adjustments, if he can the sky is the limit.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

Tough question. He's got skills in excess. Its kind of a mirror image of what Arum did with Rigo. We expected him to be fast tracked especially because of age and he was not. Opposite look here for a much younger man. Its kind of brilliant really because even if he loses its not a career ender. He challenged for a world title in his second pro fight.

I think its a mistake to make the fight but who knows. Salido is so tough. He will prepare for this like no other. Even Lamotta beat Robinson once.

Btw I've been trying to find out what Lomachenko's reach is and cant find it anywhere. It's got to be mid 70's.

He does look so cool and slick , great footwork , is Salido a good fight for him in fight number 2 ? im not sure . However if he takes that fight and wins it would be a fantastic achievement .

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

Tough question. He's got skills in excess. Its kind of a mirror image of what Arum did with Rigo. We expected him to be fast tracked especially because of age and he was not. Opposite look here for a much younger man. Its kind of brilliant really because even if he loses its not a career ender. He challenged for a world title in his second pro fight.

I think its a mistake to make the fight but who knows. Salido is so tough. He will prepare for this like no other. Even Lamotta beat Robinson once.

Btw I've been trying to find out what Lomachenko's reach is and cant find it anywhere. It's got to be mid 70's.

He does look so cool and slick , great footwork , is Salido a good fight for him in fight number 2 ? im not sure . However if he takes that fight and wins it would be a fantastic achievement .

Indeed. If successful its most definitely one for the record books and has never been done in history to my knowledge. Leon Spinks would be the closest in his cough, cough, win against Ali. There have been a few attempts though and the following were title attempts in pro debuts.

Pete Rademacher got a shot at Patterson is his pro debut. 1957
Jack Skelly also against George Dixon in 1892
Rafael Lovera against Luis Estaba IN 1975

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

Tough question. He's got skills in excess. Its kind of a mirror image of what Arum did with Rigo. We expected him to be fast tracked especially because of age and he was not. Opposite look here for a much younger man. Its kind of brilliant really because even if he loses its not a career ender. He challenged for a world title in his second pro fight.

I think its a mistake to make the fight but who knows. Salido is so tough. He will prepare for this like no other. Even Lamotta beat Robinson once.

Btw I've been trying to find out what Lomachenko's reach is and cant find it anywhere. It's got to be mid 70's.

He does look so cool and slick , great footwork , is Salido a good fight for him in fight number 2 ? im not sure . However if he takes that fight and wins it would be a fantastic achievement .

Indeed. If successful its most definitely one for the record books and has never been done in history to my knowledge. Leon Spinks would be the closest in his cough, cough, win against Ali. There have been a few attempts though and the following were title attempts in pro debuts.

Pete Rademacher got a shot at Patterson is his pro debut. 1957
Jack Skelly also against George Dixon in 1892
Rafael Lovera against Luis Estaba IN 1975

Jeff Fenech won the IBF world bantam title in his 7th fight.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by smashup

How far can this fella go?

Amazing amateur record with nearly 400 fights and only 1 loss.
Made a good debut and straight into a full on fight and impressed me a lot.

Decent power too , I see a big big future for him ;-)

Tough question. He's got skills in excess. Its kind of a mirror image of what Arum did with Rigo. We expected him to be fast tracked especially because of age and he was not. Opposite look here for a much younger man. Its kind of brilliant really because even if he loses its not a career ender. He challenged for a world title in his second pro fight.

I think its a mistake to make the fight but who knows. Salido is so tough. He will prepare for this like no other. Even Lamotta beat Robinson once.

Btw I've been trying to find out what Lomachenko's reach is and cant find it anywhere. It's got to be mid 70's.

He does look so cool and slick , great footwork , is Salido a good fight for him in fight number 2 ? im not sure . However if he takes that fight and wins it would be a fantastic achievement .

Indeed. If successful its most definitely one for the record books and has never been done in history to my knowledge. Leon Spinks would be the closest in his cough, cough, win against Ali. There have been a few attempts though and the following were title attempts in pro debuts.

Pete Rademacher got a shot at Patterson is his pro debut. 1957
Jack Skelly also against George Dixon in 1892
Rafael Lovera against Luis Estaba IN 1975

Jeff Fenech won the IBF world bantam title in his 7th fight.

How could I forget Saensak Muangsurin? Got the 140 tin in his 3rd.