Thread: In defense of Maidana/PBF

People have already written this fight off and accused Mayweather of being a pussy for choosing Maidana (which is the same thing people said when Broner chose to fight Maidana, so how Maidana became known as a pushover is beyond me).

Like everyone else, I would rather PBF/Bradley or PBF/Pac. But with them out of the picture, who else is there? Everyone else at WW is either underdeveloped with no name value yet, or guys that Floyd has already beat handily.

Then people say "well why doesn't he fight a 154lber?" Well, which 154lb guy would you want him to fight? Lara? He's a good fighter but he has no name value. Molina? Mundine? Ishe Smith? Bundrage? Martiroysan? Kirkland? Who of those guys has the momentum and name value to warrant a PBF megafight? 154 is a largely ignored division, lost in between WW and MW. Floyd has already beat the only two names at 154 (Cotto and Canelo).

Then there are the people who say he should have picked Khan. Why? On the grounds that Khan beat Maidana (VERY narrowly) 4 years ago? Who gives a fuck? Since when do you earn shit now based on what you did 4 years ago? Boxing is a "what have you done lately" sport: Maidana has racked up a solid win streak at WW and is coming off a huge upset over one of boxing's most promising prospects. Khan is coming off a shit performance against Diaz where he BARELY won against a subpar opponent, and Khan has never even fought at WW before. I agree that Khan's style makes an interesting challenge for Mayweather, but it just doesn't make sense to make that fight.

I think Maidana is interesting for a number of reasons. I don't expect him to win, but I do expect him to make it interesting.

Maidana is very unorthodox in his punching and throws bombs from crazy angles. He's also very tricky and resourceful with his power punching: he's very good at getting his fists on his opponents chin and body from any range or angle. I think he has the ability to get Floyd out of his comfort zone and make this a fight.

I should clarify that I don't actually hate the fight, I was just arguing the point that really Maidana hasn't actually done more than Khan (other than fighting at Welterweight and having a belt as a bargaining chip) to warrant the fight more than Khan. Really Floyd could have gone either way with that choice and people would have been unhappy. In truth, discounting Top Rank/HBO fighters there were only 2 other interesting options than what he presented. Those 2 are Danny Garcia or a step up to Middleweight and fight Quillin as he's Golden Boy and they could try and sell his lack of name value in that Floyd was winning at another weightclass. Really I'm just happy we get to see the best fighter of our generation in the ring 4 more times because he might be a dick but watching him box is fucking artwork and it doesn't matter who he picks, he is going to win.

the main point i dissagree with is that maidana will make it interesting

there is a slight posibility of that, there is a much more likely posibility that he wont land a punch

IMO khan would have been a lot more interesting

another point i dissagree with is that people thought maidana would be a push over for broner, its possible that they did, i didnt read it anywhere that they did and i definately didnt, i didnt bet on maidana because i thought it would go the distance and he would be robbed

Originally Posted by erics44

another point i dissagree with is that people thought maidana would be a push over for broner, its possible that they did, i didnt read it anywhere that they did and i definately didnt, i didnt bet on maidana because i thought it would go the distance and he would be robbed

Well let me quote from the original thread I replied to many months ago (the context of the thread was that Broner/Maidana was taken off PPV, and people were agreeing with the decision). You replied to this thread so you must have seen them.


I'm not that interested in Broner-Maidana. With all the big fights GB has around that weight for Broner, it seems like they are feeding Maidana too him.

Me neither.. this is a gimmie fight for broner really and gbp changing this to a non ppv event kind of shows that. They figured people arent going to pay for this mismatch so they backtracked.Broner-maidana is a Boxing after Dark level fight.. Easy fight for broner..

Maidana should be tailor made for broner but honestly if gavin rees can tag ya so can maidana, so hopefully broner doesn't tighten up his defense and eats one he doesn't seem comin but don't see it happenin.

Maidana is a tough dude, but styles make fights. Maidana is a mauler who leaves himself open. In my opinion, this is a fight to make Broner look good after the sour taste left in people's mouths from his last fight. I think they'll stay away from boxers for a while with Broner. As far as outcomes, I could see something comparable to Alexander - Urango

this kinda reminds me of mayweater v gatti. i think that might be what golden boy sees as well. but broner ain't floyd and marcos ain't arturo... hopefully it ends differently.

(Maidana) is so slow and robotic. Hes a tough guy but dont see him lasting past 7 or 8

Broners going to look good here imo, could even be a DeMarco type showing. He's not going to have to look for Maidana, he'll be able to get set and let his hands go to the body. The guy reminds me vaguely of Canelo as much as anyone else in truth, maybe I'm nuts there but he's not great on his feet and needs to plant them to get off, kind of punches in a shell etc. Still don't see Maidana winning this though, Broner can hurt him and will tee off.

Maidana's Achilles Heel is well-known, he's susceptible to speed and body punches. Broner will target the body early in the fight with his speed and stop Maidana. Boxers can beat Broner, but Maidana isn't a boxer. That's why this fight wasn't worth PPV.


And some from some different threads pre-fight…

"If ever there was a fighter tailor made for Broners style it is Maidana. I'm not sure the guy can even move laterally. Its going to appear that you are watching a fight split screen because the speed difference will be that obvious. His style feeds Broners. Look for a white object to be thrown in late and a defeated Maidana sitting on his stool looking like a human pincushion. Paulie and Rees gave Broner more trouble then Maidana will"

"I don't think he'll have any serious problems with Maidana, but almost anything can happen in the ring so I'll keep hoping he has some humility beat into his ass."

"Broner picks him apart."

"Great card. Maidana Broner will most likely be very 1 sided but Karas Thurman should be a war..."

"Broner wins by KO in 1st half. I love Maidana but he is tailor made for Broner"

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by erics44

another point i dissagree with is that people thought maidana would be a push over for broner, its possible that they did, i didnt read it anywhere that they did and i definately didnt, i didnt bet on maidana because i thought it would go the distance and he would be robbed

Well let me quote from the original thread I replied to many months ago (the context of the thread was that Broner/Maidana was taken off PPV, and people were agreeing with the decision). You replied to this thread so you must have seen them.


I'm not that interested in Broner-Maidana. With all the big fights GB has around that weight for Broner, it seems like they are feeding Maidana too him.

Me neither.. this is a gimmie fight for broner really and gbp changing this to a non ppv event kind of shows that. They figured people arent going to pay for this mismatch so they backtracked.Broner-maidana is a Boxing after Dark level fight.. Easy fight for broner..

Maidana should be tailor made for broner but honestly if gavin rees can tag ya so can maidana, so hopefully broner doesn't tighten up his defense and eats one he doesn't seem comin but don't see it happenin.

Maidana is a tough dude, but styles make fights. Maidana is a mauler who leaves himself open. In my opinion, this is a fight to make Broner look good after the sour taste left in people's mouths from his last fight. I think they'll stay away from boxers for a while with Broner. As far as outcomes, I could see something comparable to Alexander - Urango

this kinda reminds me of mayweater v gatti. i think that might be what golden boy sees as well. but broner ain't floyd and marcos ain't arturo... hopefully it ends differently.

(Maidana) is so slow and robotic. Hes a tough guy but dont see him lasting past 7 or 8

Broners going to look good here imo, could even be a DeMarco type showing. He's not going to have to look for Maidana, he'll be able to get set and let his hands go to the body. The guy reminds me vaguely of Canelo as much as anyone else in truth, maybe I'm nuts there but he's not great on his feet and needs to plant them to get off, kind of punches in a shell etc. Still don't see Maidana winning this though, Broner can hurt him and will tee off.

Maidana's Achilles Heel is well-known, he's susceptible to speed and body punches. Broner will target the body early in the fight with his speed and stop Maidana. Boxers can beat Broner, but Maidana isn't a boxer. That's why this fight wasn't worth PPV.


And some from some different threads pre-fight…

"If ever there was a fighter tailor made for Broners style it is Maidana. I'm not sure the guy can even move laterally. Its going to appear that you are watching a fight split screen because the speed difference will be that obvious. His style feeds Broners. Look for a white object to be thrown in late and a defeated Maidana sitting on his stool looking like a human pincushion. Paulie and Rees gave Broner more trouble then Maidana will"

"I don't think he'll have any serious problems with Maidana, but almost anything can happen in the ring so I'll keep hoping he has some humility beat into his ass."

"Broner picks him apart."

"Great card. Maidana Broner will most likely be very 1 sided but Karas Thurman should be a war..."

"Broner wins by KO in 1st half. I love Maidana but he is tailor made for Broner"

fair enough, i dont read all the posts on the threads so i havent read them before

how did i reply to the thread?

im suprised people saw that fight this way after the pauli fight

i would put my house on mayweather maidana being 12-0

This fight isn't good at all. Khan would be more exciting . Mayweather is the best in the world and thus we have higher expectations. So what that Maidana beat Broner. Maidana got shutout by Alexander not that long ago. Why not Mayweather vs Porter that beat Alexander. On the other hand . Erislandy Lara beat Trout easy , Trout beat Cotto , Cotto gave a lot of problems to Floyd. Why not Floyd vs Lara? Unless there is a great undercard , this PPV should turn out to have low revenue.

^^^agreed, I don't hate the fight either and I always believe Maidana would beat Broner.

But I don't think Maidana will stand a chance against PBF. He seems Taylor made for Floyd and I'm also a bit disappointed because I generally believe Khan is a tougher fight because Amir has attributes that could trouble Floyd.

I mean khan is probably faster than him or at the very least on par and that could play a factor.

Look what happened with Cotto, I see this fight maybe being similar.

It took Maidana 10 rounds to land on Khan. He went 50-50 with an ancient bloated Morales. Got totally schooled by Alexander.

He qualified for this fight because he "proved" himself at 147 by beating Adrien Broner, whose only win at 147 is Paulie Malignaggi, which he scraped through.

I love Maidana but this is a shit mismatch. He wont land a punch. Round one to twelve rinse and repeat.

Originally Posted by Fenster

It took Maidana 10 rounds to land on Khan. He went 50-50 with an ancient bloated Morales. Got totally schooled by Alexander.

He qualified for this fight because he "proved" himself at 147 by beating Adrien Broner, whose only win at 147 is Paulie Malignaggi, which he scraped through.

I love Maidana but this is a shit mismatch. He wont land a punch. Round one to twelve rinse and repeat.

he didnt really get schooled by alexander, alexanders hit and holding was hurrendous. should have been DQ'd

Khan didn't "deserve" it (lol, as if that means anything in boxing) but at least he offered something different for Floyd stylewise, and Khan doesn't know how to do dull fights, he'd have even made a Floyd fight entertaining.

Maidana is a heavy puncher but who exactly has he knocked out? He couldn't even finish "shitty undeserving" Khan or Broner when he hurt them?

I don't think anyone believes Maidana is a push over. Floyds is likely a bad match up for him that's all.


Hes tough as shit and hes earned the spot hes in.

the fact the fight is at LMW just makes it more in floyds favour

It's at welterweight.

Even Roger Mayweather said he thought they were fighting Khan but Maidana is even easier.

Originally Posted by Fenster

It took Maidana 10 rounds to land on Khan. He went 50-50 with an ancient bloated Morales. Got totally schooled by Alexander.

He qualified for this fight because he "proved" himself at 147 by beating Adrien Broner, whose only win at 147 is Paulie Malignaggi, which he scraped through.

I love Maidana but this is a shit mismatch. He wont land a punch. Round one to twelve rinse and repeat.

Exactly how I see it. Don't know why or how people can see this as anyway competitive. Perhaps people believed in Broners hype and that his style is similar to Floyd's? They are completely different. Floyd will make Maidana look stupid just like he did against Canelo. Do people not understand that to have some sort of a chance against Floyd u need some sort of speed. 120-108 on all cards is my prediction.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Perhaps people believed in Broners hype and that his style is similar to Floyd's?

Yeah apparently people did.

"LOL, the main thing here is he was fighting Paulie. No need to defend yourself everytime he hits you its like a pillow hitting your face. (context: You said that in defense or Broner's lack of defense in the Paulie fight) (Maidana) is so slow and robotic. Hes a tough guy but dont see him lasting past 7 or 8.

Just for the record I would be delighted to eat crow here. I hope you guys are right because I love Maidana and hate Broner. But I think his style suits Broner perfectly."

-Silkeyjoe