Thread: how chino can pull off an upset

I was reading a few boxing news articles and they all talk about how little a chance Chino has against Floyd. One says the key will be for Chino to attack Floyd's body to wear him down and negate Floyd's speed advantage. Makes sense but I think a lot of us, or at least me thought of a game plan Floyd's last few opponents could use to beat him. I thought if Garcia could work on the inside he had a chance. I thought if Canelo could use his power effectively he would have a chance.

I developed a game plan for everyone who fought Floyd to no avail. It was reported that Chinos plan is to fight Floyd like he fought Broner. Problem is Broner is not Floyd despite thinking he is. If Chino were to win it would probably be one of the biggest upsets in boxing. It won't happen. Floyd will probably make Chino look foolish.

I don't think Khan would have stood a chance either but at least he could probably catch Floyd with his speed. Anyway, I think this will probably be another Floyd fight. If Chino does stand a chance it will probably be in the first few rounds where Floyd typically feels out his opponents. After that he dominates the pace and location of the fight.

Game plan to beat Floyd?? I don't think there is one per say. His best shot is to keep changing his game plan, don't let Floyd figure out your timing and/or punch variation. If Maidana stays one dimensional (head hunting) the entire fight, its a wrap.

Originally Posted by cnote111

Game plan to beat Floyd?? I don't think there is one per say. His best shot is to keep changing his game plan, don't let Floyd figure out your timing and/or punch variation. If Maidana stays one dimensional (head hunting) the entire fight, its a wrap.

I agree, Floyd watches for a couple rounds and then picks them apart. If Maidana could make a change every couple rounds he could possibly make a fight of it. Constant pressure is a mistake, in my opinion.

He needs to go all Rocky Marciano and just hit anything he sees. Full on attack mode and hope he gets lucky.

You know its funny how they compare Broner to Mayweather because it is apples and oranges really. Fighters think that because they have learned to shoulder roll and block punches then that makes them like Money when in all actuality they have only scratched the surface. Really watch Floyd, his timing and ability to move around that ring and put together his punches is second to none he never lets his opponents set the pace. Broner stays in 1 place and flurries here and there which guys like Chino love because they stay in 1 place. This will be a one sided ass whooping for Floyd. The only way Chino stands a chance is to be in Floyds chest and not let him find his rhythm from the opening bell and brawl not box him from low blows to head-butts to coming close to being disqualified if he has to but make it a fight.

It was just mentioned that Chino should go Rocky Marciano on Floyd. No one ever has. You remember Larry Holmes until he made the comment about Marciano not being able to carry his jock strap don't you? Floyd and Holmes both share something in common and as we used to say in The Marine Corps,"One day your mouth is going to write a check your ass can't cash." Here it is, everyone was so focused on their mouths that they forgot to hit the body and ignore that hole on top because at certain points of the fight it won't be available while you opponent is fresh. It's like going to see a great movie. You have to go to the box office in this case a head shot and Floyd will see it a mile away or come in the side door as in cutting off the ring and hitting the body but forget the head early unless Floyd makes an error and takes one peek too many at the screen. I hope I understood the original thread.

There are textbook moves against the shoulder roll that Maidana even employed against broner. You jab to the body to get the trail arm to drop and you turn that jab into a hook like Marcos twice dropped Broner with or you come over the top with the right. Problem with this tactic is you can be sure the Mayweathers will see right through that.

I agree with those that suggest avoiding patterns. When Floyd is sure he knows what you will do he takes advantage. Switch it up, often. Pressure, box, bully, wrestle, retreat, pressure, retreat, bully, box.

I get a kick out of arm-chair trainers who come up with these game plans to beat Floyd.

"Ya know ya just gotta bang the body and also jab because he hates getting jabbed ya know"

People have been saying that and guys have been trying that and failing for 18 years.

Maidana's chance is to fucking land a haymaker on Floyd's jaw, and to hope that Floyd maybe gets old overnight Roy Jones style.

Agreed, some hail mary is about his only hope. He isn't fast, skilled or durable enough to consistently employ anything that will be effective against Floyd. How the fight looks more or less depends on how Maidana is able to take Floyds punches, it will either be a clinic or a beatdown depending on that, imo.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

I get a kick out of arm-chair trainers who come up with these game plans to beat Floyd.

"Ya know ya just gotta bang the body and also jab because he hates getting jabbed ya know"

People have been saying that and guys have been trying that and failing for 18 years.

Maidana's chance is to fucking land a haymaker on Floyd's jaw, and to hope that Floyd maybe gets old overnight Roy Jones style.

Lol tell me about it. Lol @ the armchair trainer comment.

Yea there is nothing maidana can do to raise his chances because he doesn't possess the necessary tools first and foremost. Second, there is no blueprint on how to beat floyd until somebody actually fuckin beats him.

He can use some plasters in his gloves or a 12 gauge but those are illegal.

Zero chance.

He is undersized in this weight division to be competitive, lacking the explosive power-- the minimum requirement, a puncher's chance is not even on the table.

Maidana reminds me of jorge castro, and that guy won a lot of fights. He was crude, stylistically, strong and durable. But he was also more thoughtful than he appeared. Maidana moved his feet around to give himself some angles against broner in ways that were straight out of the castro playbook.
I don't think that you are going to pot-shot Mayweather and get him out- though anything can happen- because he is too aware in the ring. I don't think that you are going to bully him around and maul him because he can fight inside, he can move effectively, and all Mayweathers can punch when they want to.
To beat him I think you need to be a tough durable guy that can keep doing things he doesn't expect, lay traps for him. Like Dempsey said, sometimes the smart guys forget the other guy is thinking too. I do not know if maidana is that clever and I don't expect him to be.

the key, is to CASTILLO 1 him. yeah, the first fight castillo was robbed of. pressure pressure pressure and hope something big lands! get him in a corner, trap his ass, rattle floyds nerves and make him uneasy and flighty. then hopefully the big shot will land.

here's to hoping!!!

He has about as much chance at causing an upset as I do winning the lottery.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

I get a kick out of arm-chair trainers who come up with these game plans to beat Floyd.

"Ya know ya just gotta bang the body and also jab because he hates getting jabbed ya know"

People have been saying that and guys have been trying that and failing for 18 years.

Maidana's chance is to fucking land a haymaker on Floyd's jaw, and to hope that Floyd maybe gets old overnight Roy Jones style.

Actually bean man, I was just quoting from different articles I read.In them, they emphasized Chino has little chance of winning. They were just saying in order to pull off an upset Chino would need to find away to neutralize Floyd's speed. Body work makes sense but I think Chino has a snowballs chance in hell. Besides, I think most of us fans are armchair trainers.