Thread: Jack Johnson vs George Foreman

Does George club him out of there? Or does Jack outwit and outslug Foreman?

Depends what rules you were applying. 40 rounds Johnson paces himself and beats George.

Contemporary rules the Foreman wins.

The way Johnson used to box back then, was not even boxing by modern standards. They held their hands wrong, swung wildly and clinched constantly.


Foreman by KO 1.


Two different sports.

Foreman by round 1 KO.

Originally Posted by Hulk

The way Johnson used to box back then, was not even boxing by modern standards. They held their hands wrong, swung wildly and clinched constantly.


Foreman by KO 1.


Two different sports.

That was the appropriate way to fight at that time under those conditions.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Hulk

The way Johnson used to box back then, was not even boxing by modern standards. They held their hands wrong, swung wildly and clinched constantly.


Foreman by KO 1.


Two different sports.

That was the appropriate way to fight at that time under those conditions.

Yes, but to then throw that archaic and terribly ineffective style in with the most murderous puncher in the history of the division is not a good matchup.

The only thing we can really base this on is the physical specimens and heart... Johnson beat Foreman out in both categories plus athleticism.

I would say Johnson.. but it would be brutal.

I think Jack would survive with his Wiley moves for about 2 mins 30 secs.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Does George club him out of there? Or does Jack outwit and outslug Foreman?

Jack Johnson
Champ from1908 until 1915
Weight 190-225
Height 6 feet 1 inch
Reach 75 inches

Style. Unorthodox and more defense based then offensive. A counter puncher really who was more inclined to frustrate and move out of the way while letting his opponent punch himself out or tire.
Slapped a lot and knew how to grapple. Fought open handed much of the time. Not really a straight puncher. Not long on power but not short on it either

My knocks on the guy.

Never fought a legitimate black challenger when he was champ.
Threw Langford under the bus when it mattered most.
Lost to the flailing Willard who had been boxing for about two years and started at age 27

George Foreman (1970's version)
Champ from 1973 until 1974
Retired for 10 years in 1977
Weight 215-225
Height 6 feet 3 inches
Reach 79 inches ( he is listed from 78 to 82 depending on the source}

Style. A slugger/brawler really. More offensive minded then defensive. Bit of a bull in a china shop. His objective to overwhelm and club his opponent out in short order and not go into the later rounds. Like Jack, a little slap happy and also carried his hands open. Not a straight puncher either and at his physical prime short on skill but long on power.

My knocks on the guy.

Made a name for himself beating up a perfect opponent for him in Frazier.
Never did much more then that in his prime years.
As big an urban legend as any pioneer is looked at as being.


In the end I think Foremans style would play right into Johnsons hands. However Foreman could Willard him.



My advice,

Foreman would clean his clock. 2 rounds tops.

Johnson was huge for his time.

Dempsey ducked Langford as well.

What if Johnson took it past 15 rounds against George?

Originally Posted by Master

Johnson was huge for his time.

Dempsey ducked Langford as well.

What if Johnson took it past 15 rounds against George?

Foreamn couldnt make it past 9 rounds with JJ. It would be the Stumble in the Crumble.