Thread: Where does Ali rank P4P?

I've seen people rank Ali in the top 5 P4P, and I have to ask why. Is it because of his resume? Because, he got away with a lot of fundamental mistakes due to his speed, especially for a HW.

ali is no where near the top 5 p4p @p4pking

It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.

Cassius Clay

I don't even have him in the Top 10 of the Heavyweight Division.

He dangles at #11.

Pound-For-Pound

As Ralph Kramden stated ........... "Har-De-Har-Har"

I'm in the not a big fan of Ali club - not for political, social or religious reasons, purely boxing.

A terrific fighter, who was undoubtedly in memorable, historic fights, and is a deserved all-time great, but I always see the "great" modern heavyweights beating him and think he's a bit overrated.

I don't think much of Ali outside the ring at all. Think he was pretty classless, especially in how he treated Joe Frazier. That being said, I have him in my top 3, and that is based off his quality of opposition (best ever at that weight, as well as any other weight), historical impact, and transcending of the sport. Ali was a global fighter who not only dominated the American landscape of sports, he dominated the WORLD. Will likely never be another fighter who comes close, and I can't stress how much it pains me to admit that.

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Cassius Clay

I don't even have him in the Top 10 of the Heavyweight Division.

He dangles at #11.

Pound-For-Pound

As Ralph Kramden stated ........... "Har-De-Har-Har"

Name 10 a head of him then?

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Cassius Clay

I don't even have him in the Top 10 of the Heavyweight Division.

He dangles at #11.

Pound-For-Pound

As Ralph Kramden stated ........... "Har-De-Har-Har"

Name 10 a head of him then?

~ Heavyweight's On Their 'Overall' Career ~

1 ..... Jack Dempsey
2 ..... Joe Louis
3 ..... Larry Holmes
4 ..... James J. Jeffries
5 ..... Rocky Marciano
6 ..... Jack Johnson
7 ..... Lennox Lewis
8 ..... George Foreman
9 ..... Gene Tunney
10 ... Ezzard Charles

11 ... Cassius Clay

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Cassius Clay

I don't even have him in the Top 10 of the Heavyweight Division.

He dangles at #11.

Pound-For-Pound

As Ralph Kramden stated ........... "Har-De-Har-Har"

Name 10 a head of him then?

~ Heavyweight's On Their 'Overall' Career ~

1 ..... Jack Dempsey
2 ..... Joe Louis
3 ..... Larry Holmes
4 ..... James J. Jeffries
5 ..... Rocky Marciano
6 ..... Jack Johnson
7 ..... Lennox Lewis
8 ..... George Foreman
9 ..... Gene Tunney
10 ... Ezzard Charles

11 ... Cassius Clay

Your list just shows how stupid and bias you are. Embarrassing Bill.

p4p list is difficult one to list in any real order.

In my lifetime I would have Roy Jones, Whitaker, Chavez and Manny in it.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.

ali has only fought the whos who because ali went on about them so much

why would all of the best known hws in history all come from alis era, because they were all the best or because of ali and alis mouth?

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.

ali has only fought the whos who because ali went on about them so much

why would all of the best known hws in history all come from alis era, because they were all the best or because of ali and alis mouth?

They were great heavyweights and would have dominated in any era if Ali was not around they would have been considered greater than they are.

Foreman and Frazier are in most people top 10 heavyweight champs. Sonny would have dominated if Ali was not around.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.

ali has only fought the whos who because ali went on about them so much

why would all of the best known hws in history all come from alis era, because they were all the best or because of ali and alis mouth?

They were great heavyweights and would have dominated in any era if Ali was not around they would have been considered greater than they are.

Foreman and Frazier are in most people top 10 heavyweight champs. Sonny would have dominated if Ali was not around.

that's the myth

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

It is because of his resume. There isn't another heavyweight with one even close to his. It's a who's who of heavyweight royalty.

ali has only fought the whos who because ali went on about them so much

why would all of the best known hws in history all come from alis era, because they were all the best or because of ali and alis mouth?

They were great heavyweights and would have dominated in any era if Ali was not around they would have been considered greater than they are.

Foreman and Frazier are in most people top 10 heavyweight champs. Sonny would have dominated if Ali was not around.

that's the myth

Where is the myth? They were great champions and heavyweights.