Thread: What was the deal with GGG's telegraphed punches early on?

First off, I think it was a good fight spoiled by a terribly weak stoppage. The result was inevitable as you can jump a weight, but not two like that. Even Manny kind of eased his way into it back when DLH became a Mummy at the weight. Brook was fighting Golovkin at his weight and Golovkin is in his prime unlike DLH.

The thing that struck me most in those early rounds though was just how off GGG's timing looked. He was throwing punches that you could see a mile away that only Carlos Baldomir would struggle to evade. I didn't understand why he was throwing those punches when it would be quite easy to counter and at times Brook did make him pay with suitable responses.

Why do you think GGG was throwing those awkward and off looking shots? GGG has a lot of experience and typically shows a lot of excellent technique, but it just looked sloppy and amateurish early on for me. It really wasn't so much about Brook being so fast as you could see yourself that the punches were just not going to land.

As Floyd fans would say, "This half breed is a bum. Any decent black fighter with skills would wipe him out. If Floyd fought him it would be an easy 120-108 domination." Fact.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

As Floyd fans would say, "This half breed is a bum. Any decent black fighter with skills would wipe him out. If Floyd fought him it would be an easy 120-108 domination." Fact.

you have got floyd's ear.........he's got a reason to comeback BIG now.

GGG knew he would be too strong for Brook and when he hurt him in the first round he decided to take his time. GGG took punches because he wanted to land his own and it worked.

Brook had his moments but that were all they were.

It's a shame Joe Calzaghe isn't still around as I think he has the perfect style to beat Golovkin. It would be epic. Every time Golovkin misses with one of those looping shots, Calzaghe would buzzsaw him with 8. Calzaghe would eat shots too, but he always manages to find a way. I find it very unusual how Golovkin was throwing those punches that were always a good foot away. Brook just had no power or resilience at the weight.

GGG is heavy handed and have freakish power.

I have seen him land punches high on opponents heads and he still hurts them.

Originally Posted by Gandalf

It's a shame Joe Calzaghe isn't still around as I think he has the perfect style to beat Golovkin. It would be epic. Every time Golovkin misses with one of those looping shots, Calzaghe would buzzsaw him with 8. Calzaghe would eat shots too, but he always manages to find a way. I find it very unusual how Golovkin was throwing those punches that were always a good foot away. Brook just had no power or resilience at the weight.

I am not that sure Miles. GGG is really a beast; precision, stamina, a granite chin and enough power to break through anybody's armor at his Weight. Not saying that he would tear Calzaghe apart easily but he would have more than some fair chances against him.

Originally Posted by Master

GGG knew he would be too strong for Brook and when he hurt him in the first round he decided to take his time. GGG took punches because he wanted to land his own and it worked.

Brook had his moments but that were all they were.

This misconception needs to stop. It dumbs down boxing fans in general. If he took them to give them he would have fired back. Numerous times he had both hands up to defend and got hit still because his head is as stationary as my refrigerator. When he would have both hands guarding up the middle Brook would loop his right around his guard, when he had his guard wide Brook cracked him with the uppercut. And many times no punches came back. Because GGG was trying to defend. His defense is just bad. He is a great fighter but he isn't perfect. His defense is bad because of his lack of head movement. He gets hit because of bad defense. All the excuses for his bad defense are simply that, excuses.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by Master

GGG knew he would be too strong for Brook and when he hurt him in the first round he decided to take his time. GGG took punches because he wanted to land his own and it worked.

Brook had his moments but that were all they were.

This misconception needs to stop. It dumbs down boxing fans in general. If he took them to give them he would have fired back. Numerous times he had both hands up to defend and got hit still because his head is as stationary as my refrigerator. When he would have both hands guarding up the middle Brook would loop his right around his guard, when he had his guard wide Brook cracked him with the uppercut. And many times no punches came back. Because GGG was trying to defend. His defense is just bad. He is a great fighter but he isn't perfect. His defense is bad because of his lack of head movement. He gets hit because of bad defense. All the excuses for his bad defense are simply that, excuses.

I'm sure GGG will appreciate your coaching efforts, pro bono of course, meanwhile he will clear up all the MW division titles, make a lot of money and probably retire unbeaten. If idiot fans pay to watch him destroy Mayweather his pension gets better still.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

As Floyd fans would say, "This half breed is a bum. Any decent black fighter with skills would wipe him out. If Floyd fought him it would be an easy 120-108 domination." Fact.

that's not a fact, its an opinion

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

As Floyd fans would say, "This half breed is a bum. Any decent black fighter with skills would wipe him out. If Floyd fought him it would be an easy 120-108 domination." Fact.

Not every round.

GGG would win a few.

Fact.

Didn't see GGG do any lateral movements, no bobbing or weaving, just walking straight lines towards Brook. He was taking more than a couple uppercuts as well. Yes he might be able to beat elite competition but after yesterday's fight I realized he is not THAT INVINCIBLE.

Originally Posted by Chino

Didn't see GGG do any lateral movements, no bobbing or weaving, just walking straight lines towards Brook. He was taking more than a couple uppercuts as well. Yes he might be able to beat elite competition but after yesterday's fight I realized he is not THAT INVINCIBLE.

Hoping Caneo will take the bait too.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Chino

Didn't see GGG do any lateral movements, no bobbing or weaving, just walking straight lines towards Brook. He was taking more than a couple uppercuts as well. Yes he might be able to beat elite competition but after yesterday's fight I realized he is not THAT INVINCIBLE.

Hoping Caneo will take the bait too.

And if that fight ever happens and Canelo gets to beat him I wonder if people will finally give him credit for once or say GGG was too old, too slow, etc.

Originally Posted by master

Originally Posted by chino

didn't see ggg do any lateral movements, no bobbing or weaving, just walking straight lines towards brook. He was taking more than a couple uppercuts as well. Yes he might be able to beat elite competition but after yesterday's fight i realized he is not that invincible.

hoping caneo will take the bait too.

hook, line and sinker.