How the fuck you have not choked on your own word salad by now is beyond me but let us pretend for just one moment that you are worth even replying to.
Here you are in a posted reply displaying not just for everyone who posts and reads on Saddo but anyone who chooses to browse the internet, your own breathtaking ignorance of not just life in general and the sibject in hand but the actual mechanics of debate and building an argument.
The only one being fallacious here is you. In fact it would be more accurate to define your deceptive and fallacious reasoning as specious.
It is a textbook case of specious reasoning.
It begins by masquerading your opinion as fact. It is based on your emotional beliefs and delusions and displays very clearly your own disdain for facts and actual evidence. You create a false unattainable bar, that by definition, no evidence can ever reach. Making you God and everyone else an idiot. When Kirkland said you reminded him of a child imagining that the vegetables were not on his plate in order to avoid eating them, he hit the nail on the head. You hate science because it requires you question and test your own assumptions and you refuse to do that.
You change the subject with Strawman arguments all the time, and then accuse others of doing so. This is common in specious arguments. People ask you questions and you refuse to answer. You use selective arguments to ignore any unfavorable evidence which is again classic specious reasoning and start with such a flawed premise that all your following logic is pointless. Circular logic, Syllogisms, Rhetorical traps, Virtue Signalling all elements of specious reasoning litter your posts and replies.
Look at the bollocks you typed above
" I am asking you to prove something is true but will not let you know the standard or rules i will accept as proof it is true. Even though nobody has ever asked me to, I am going to pretend they have, and suggest it is not my job to make your case for you. Where is Beanz and why do you keep calling in other posters even though i have just done that? So why do you keep bringing up other people, because even though i just did, really i am not attention seeking, but just speaking to you. Read this very carefully. I am a patronising prick and i will never ever engage with any of you losers on this board because I am the King of the teenage edgelords and I can win any argument by simply pretending that there is no such thing as science, books, research, knowledge, facts etc..only my opinion, the opinion of a cheesy puffs filled Kool Aid drinker counts"
They say that the first COVID jabs are 70-80% effective, while the second one is over 95% effective.
So why don’t they give people the second one first to be extra safe, and - if possible - give them that one twice.
In fact, what’s the point in mucking about with the first one at all?
Lets break this down so that even you can understand why you are so gullible and easily led.
1. "i'm not the one claiming convid is a virus caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces."
It is common practice to start sentences with a capital letter. This has nothing to do with being a grammar fascist and a lot more to do with people being willing to engage with you. If you can not even be bothered to use this convention it becomes very easy to dismiss you as a frivolous child or a simpleton. The same applies to calling Covid 'convid'. It may be funny the first time (debatable) but it certainly is not on it's one hundredth outing.
Now the most important thing about this sentence is that nobody is alleging you are claiming that you believe Covid is real or that you believe like many viruses it can be caught off surfaces or by breathing in droplets in the air. This is just you running away again and refusing to acknowledge any other poster unless you are trolling them. It seems you are incapable of conducting a conversation.
2. "that is the claim being made".
This is not a claim that is being made, it is a clearly demonstrable fact.
3."those making that claim need to prove how they know this to be true."
This is a nonsense sentence. Who are you referring to?
Posters on this forum?
Public Health Scientists?
Intensive Care Doctors and Nurses?
Vaccine development technicians?
There is enough evidence, demonstrative, real, testimonial and documentary. ( What you see, experience, read and are told) for the existence of Covid that your vacuous and frivolous demands can be discounted as the raving of a jibbering idiot.
It is in fact YOU who need to prove why we should believe your claim that Covid does not exist. You can't do this without referring to your script and relying on what other people on the internet have told you. You can't even back up the claim that you made about you yourself somehow being the evidence that refutes the reality of millions of people across the world. You don't have any evidence. You are full of shit.
4."just keep believing what you've been told retard"
What you believe as an easily led naive fool, is not the same thing as the personal,demonstrative, testimonial and documentary evidence we as responsible adult members of society have witnessed and experienced over the last 18 months. We have all either personally had Covid or known family, friends and/or colleagues who have tested positive and got sick. It has effected our livelihoods, social lives, finances, mental health and well being and none of us are stupid enough to just allow and believe what we are told, when making those changes.
It seems you are projecting. Stop believing what some grifter on the internet is telling you
YOU need to prove why we should believe your claim that Covid does not exist.
i am referring to the person making the claim at the time. so since we are talking that is you right now. since you claimed it is demonstrable please provide me your processes of how you isolated convid from a person showing how they were infected from outside the body & then how you infected another healthy person from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. how do you know your family members had convid? tell me the processes you used that prove how you know that claim is true. not something someone else has told you. what you have actually done to prove your claims to be true. back up your claims spastic
I am assuming then that you have not and never will visit a doctor or hospital because you believe you know more about medicine and human biology than millions of qualified experts around the world
What qualifications and certification do you have to verify your ability to even understand how science, experiments and viruses and vaccines work?
YOU live your entire life based on what someone else has told you. Coronavirus is an airborne virus but if you have conducted experiments to disprove this you now have the opportunity to share them here.
Let's hear all about the rigorous large scale studies you have presided over that prove all the medical experts have got it wrong.
In fact give me one reason why I should discount all the medical and hospital staff that looked after the family members who got sick with Covid and listen to what you are telling me?
Tell me the processes you have used to prove your childish and outlandish claims are true?
After all you keep telling us not to believe something others have told us.
Out with it and stop stalling.
YOUR scientific methods and process
YOUR personal experience
YOUR ground breaking research