Influence

Sorry if this is a done before topic, I think it has.

But anyway,, from whatching what fighter do you think you have learnt the most ?

For me it is a younger James Toney, i havent seen any of this "Fat" fights, but I love that shoulder rolling style of his (like vs Mike Nunn), Just standing up straight, not moving back much, but ducking and rolling off everything... he has given me alot of ideas to try.

Hatton, unrelenting pressure from the bell... he puts the other fighter on the back foot and one of the reasons i picked the name 'gutshot' ;D

Toney, JC Chavez, Ricardo Lopez, Buddy McGirt.

I was very fortunate in my youth to be placed in the most productive gym in the country for that Ill be eternally gratefull. I had a wonderful education, with wonderful people.Great fighters, who gave of their time.I had a fabulous coach,Oh wonderful days.I had the best education that boxing could give.Ill be Fucked if I know where it all went wrong

mostly i would learn from every tape and every silent film i saw and not from any one boxer. the mystery of the sport is hidden inside every bout you see from leonard dorin to barney ross. you must look closely.

but i am reminded now of the time when as a boy i met the profoundest chess player that there was around my way. whenever i would play him he would violently tear me to shreds with an ominous kind of calm that i had only seen at the end of old west shoot out movies. he was sharp. even in times that i had captured more of his material and was (at least i assumed so) in the seat of power - maybe a rook here, a few pawns there, perhaps even his queen - he would out of nowhere swoop down like a deadly hawk and defeat me every time without fail. for a while i used to think he was some kinda cheat -- i mean how does he suddenly beat me as easy as he does even when i would seem to be ahead -- but the man was no cheat, he was simply that sharp. i only played him a few times and never saw him after those bombardments but the questions of how he did this to me would spin around in my mind for years. i would later come to find that in truth every move that i would make was not made by me but instead by him. yes i would take my bishops or whatever and move them around myself but only ever because he would draw me out to do so. he would leave open say a rook for me to take from him (and i would like a dummy) or put a bishop in the line of my queen to make me move around my pawns in front to make her safe (and i would like a dummy) and by way of this he would deliberately manipulate my distribution of material to ultimately make a defensive lapse for that one final blow. every move i made was shepherded by his invisible hand and he would walk me into invisible traps i had no idea were even there. this lesson i would translate to boxing but also for the many other facets of life. because truly life is like boxing and boxing is truly like chess. this i think is the real prize to take from the sport, not the fame or money, but the revelation of strategy.

Good post thomas cc Trainers always ask me how to be a better coach I tell them to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanance

yeh it all relates :)

ye cc all good stuff lads its gotta be morales for me recently just pure warrior heart

the way Tyson fought using his jab to get inside and bobbing and slipping punches

young ODLH great jab, footwork and movments and brawl when I need to.