Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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06-19-2006, 11:26 PM
killersheep

Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?
06-19-2006, 11:43 PM
bleech1

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
06-19-2006, 11:47 PM
killersheep

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by bleech1

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

:coolclick: tyvm
06-20-2006, 03:01 AM
JT Rock

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

Wasn't Vivian Harris a champion when he got KO'D by Massau?? That was one of Manny's Boyz
06-20-2006, 03:05 AM
p4pking

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

Any fighter he trained, any fight?? Of course not..... Hearns would have lost several, Lennox Lewis, Wlad, I dunno im sure lots.
06-20-2006, 03:06 AM
bigragu

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by bleech1

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

I think you're right about that one.....
06-20-2006, 03:10 AM
SimonH

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by bleech1

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

:coolclick: tyvm

Well Hilmer Kenty was the Kronk's (Steward's) first alphabet champ, he lost to Sean O'Grady in April 1981, four years before Hearns lost to Hagler, and five months before Tommy lost to Ray Leonard, in their Welterweight unification fight in September 1981. ;)
06-20-2006, 03:10 AM
JT Rock

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Any fighter he trained, any fight?? Of course not..... Hearns would have lost several, Lennox Lewis, Wlad, I dunno im sure lots.

:coolclick: Exactly I am racking my brain for the farthest one and you name off the obvious ones...

See what happens when you stare at a screen all day.. :hypnotized: :cwm3:
06-20-2006, 03:14 AM
bigragu

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by bleech1

Quote:

Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

:coolclick: tyvm

Well Hilmer Kenty was the Kronk's (Steward's) first alphabet champ, he lost to Sean O'Grady in April 1981, four years before Hearns lost to Hagler, and five months before Tommy lost to Ray Leonard, in their Welterweight unification fight in September 1981. ;)

ahhhh...the true BOXING HISTORIAN finally arrives!!!! thank you for the knowledge you have once again bestowed upon us....cc to you...we're not worthy!!!!!!!!!!
06-20-2006, 06:23 AM
Lance Uppercut

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

I have heard HBO say that he was somthing like 14-1 in heavyweight title fights before, but I am not certain.
06-20-2006, 06:24 AM
El Kabong

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

He was also Hearns trainer when he lost to Leonard.

Manny MAY be undefeated as a trainer in Heavyweight title fights?
06-20-2006, 09:50 AM
CountryBoy

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

Lost to Rahaman one too.
06-20-2006, 10:02 AM
Purist

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

most recent loss would be Brewster when Wladimer fought him
06-20-2006, 04:19 PM
El Kabong

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

Very true....perhaps it's while his fighter has the belt in which case Rahman was his only loss. The Wlad-Brewster fight was for the vacant WBO title
06-20-2006, 05:27 PM
stebs

Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

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Originally Posted by bleech1

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?

He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

I think his question is for a fighter that was already established and Steward trained for the first time for a title fight, there has been a lot of them, Aron Pryor, Delahoya, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis to just name a few. Kenty, Hearns, Milton McCrory, Duane Johnson, Oba Carr ? , these are all fighters that Steward guided to world championships from the beginning. If that is the question, I don't know the answer.