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Heres the facts...
He is 28.
W26 L3 D0 22KO
84.6% KO rate.
Yet I believe his best has gone. He simply cannot stand up
to the fighters here.
He is easy to beat through fast paced boxing.
Can he offer us anymore in a world where boxing is better than
being a puncher. I don't think so!
I dare anyone to disagree with me!
I don't think he's totally finished yet, but he's damn close to it.
i admit he's a old 28, and has had a lot of tough fights with the top names, de la hoya, trindad, mosley, wright plus injurys. the rematch with mosley will tell us more about whats left in the tank
i dont think he's finished just yet. we will see on his next fight
...3 losses....easy to beat through fast paced boxing huh?
Then why was he so competative vs Mosley and YES it was a very even match
Vargas still has some battles in him, he could beat a lot of guys at 154, I see him taking 1 big payday by fighting Jermaine Taylor if he beats Mosley
How much does Mosley have left in him? He barely makes that weight any more.
It will depend on the rematch that's coming up, how he performs etc
I hope the guy wins, he has alot of heart.
Vargas-Mayorga
Vargas-any of the 160 up and comers
and my favorite
Vargas-Lacy
Would all be GREAT fights....I really hope the best for him but no matter how many times he loses fans will watch him...he's like a bigger Arturo Gatti
I think I will wait until Saturday to make a judgment about what he has left in the tank.
Man I like Vargas but he's probably gonna lose a UD to Mosley then retire. Only fight you mentioned that would be competitve is against my man Mayorga. And after his last embarassin ass whippin who knows if we'll even see him again. Vargas at 160 would get killed by JT, and the rest of the top 5 guys IMO. And just KO'd in the 1st round by Lacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
...Fernando has heart and that counts for a lot. Vargas still has power...people will sleep on him, he'll fade into a forgotten fighter then explode back onto the scene for a final hurrah
Yet somehow you can't say the same thing about El Matador? Because that is how I see what is left of his career if he so choses to come back. And a fight with him and Vargas would be pretty entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Vargas won't beat Mosely who is probably a Bgrade fighter among the current crop at 147-154. Vargas will always go out on his shield in the big fights, but he won't win them anymore. He can beat up some contenders if he feels like it but his value is a fan friendly style, not the standard of his game. He's a solid puncher at 154, not a big one. Tito's jab moved Vargas' head more than Vargas' right moved Tito. How many Vargas 1 shot KOs can you remember? How many against good fighters? How many in the last few years? Forget about it at 160. He could hurt Ray Jorval who was dropped hard by feather fisted Sam Soliman. Taylor would make Taco meat out of him
He beat a guy at 154 who had to eat breakfast to be like 152 pounds... He was overweight, but still the size difference was too dramatic between him and Mosley, and htats the only reason he did well... Lets see him take that many punches from ODLH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He won't look finished on Saturday