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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Ouch!!!
Watching the fight was crazy I mean I kept telling myself his whole face MUST HAVE been numb in order for him to have continued fighting....
Pantera if you don't mind have you posted your thoughts on this fight anywhere been looking for a post from you but haven't found any ??? Can you tell me if you have in which thread you posted. If not can you give me your thoughts on the fight?
CC. :)
I have posted a few thoughts, but I will give you my true overall feelings...
Obviously I am a huge fan of Edison and think very highly of his power and boxing skills, but I will try to be as unbiased as possible.
I was at the fight in Wetzlar and have since watched it with different people 3 times (actually watched the 5th round stoppage many times).
The 5th round was an embarrassment to boxing. The ref stopped the fight on a headbutt. His initial reaction was just a warning 'Watch the head'. He was ready to resume action with no deductions and when he turned to Abraham he sees Abraham walking to his corner. The ref says 'Time... take a minute'. Now the ref talks to adviser and decides the stoppage is for an intentional headbutt (changed his mind from his initial thoughts). Without the refs permission the ring doctor goes up and starts working on Abraham's mouth (not the back of his ear where the butt occurred, but in his mouth). Now a ring Dr is supposed to review an injury and determine weather or not a fighter can continue. This doctor (and a few minutes later a 2nd doctor) do not just examine the wound, but spend close to 5 minutes trying to repair the injury and stop the bleeding. While this is going on the Ref is just standing there looking stupid. Finally the ad visor tells the ref that the corner wants the doctor to stop the fight. The doctor after minutes of examination finally does look at the ref and signal to call the fight. The ref confirms with the doctor to end the fight and the doctor nods his head 'Yes'. Now the ref and the adviser are talking about how to make the ruling and they finally agree that Miranda wins by TKO since the headbutt had nothing to do with the injury. Before the Ref can make the official announcement to the audience, Wilfred Sauerland (the promoter) has a hissy fit and demands that they continue the fight. Why the ref even acknowledges him is beyond me, but the ref not only listens to him, but agrees that he will continue. He than asked Abraham 'Can you fight' and Abraham shakes his head and says 'NO'. This again causes Mr Sauerland and his corner to yell at Abraham in German (interpreted to be basically 'Be a Man. You Cant Quit. You need to go back out there and make us proud') Abraham looks at the ref and shrugs his shoulders. The ref again asks Abraham 'Are you ready to fight' This time Abraham nods his head yes and the fight resumes.
Why the Ref would ignore a doctor and Abraham himself (the only people that can really know Abraham's true condition) is a crime! I am not saying this because Miranda would have gotten the win, I really feel bad that the Promoter had no care for the life and well being of his fighter. It was more important to risk everything for this one win and not look at the long term sacrifice.
As far as the low blows, I think there were a couple that deserved warnings, but there were none that were blatant and in the groin. The call in the 11th round when Abraham was about to go down was a joke! Abraham sold the call and the ref not only bought it, but gave Abraham 5 minutes of rest, the only thing imo that saved him from the final touch of Miranda's power.
I scored it 8 rounds for Miranda, 2 for Abraham. The other 2 I gave to Miranda, but they were close enough where I know that the judges would give them to the home town German favorite.
In America Miranda wins this fight twice, once by TKO and once by decision.
Abraham will be looked at as a hero and warrior for finishing this blood bath and I agree. But that does not win him the fight. He did next to nothing for most of the last 7 rounds (a few 20 second spurts of energy here and there, but not nearly enough to win a round). All he did was try to survive knowing he could not lose a decision and the ref was there to protect the win whenever possible.
Anyway, I can go on and on, but that is an overall thought. Miranda, although not getting the win, proved a lot in this fight (no more chin questions!) and proved that he will soon be a champion on paper!
