I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and

Quite frankly I'm disgusted.  Not at what Byrd or Ibeabuchi did.  It was a good fight.  But the commentating. They called every miss from Ibeabuchi a land, and never even acknowledged when Byrd would flurry off of Ibeabuchi's head and body.  And how Harold can give any round to Ibeabuchi before the knockdown I don't know how.   I give a lot of credit to Byrd for getting up from the knockdown and despite being out on his feet kept trying to fight.  But the fact that Byrd wasn't even hit for the second knockdown, and the fact that he wasn't hit at after he got up and before the stoppage(watch the last replay) I think that HBO and the whole situation around it was trying to make Ike their new Tyson, and their new savior of the Heavyweight division.  And quite frankly and in my opinion he was getting outboxed BADLY by Chris Byrd before that one shot.  You can watch it here and be the judge.

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.c...eoid=802415839

Whats your opinion after watching that?  I'm not dissing Ibeabuchi or Byrd, I'm dissing HBO. 

Did you see the Wright Taylor one? ;):D

*punch hits Winky's Elbow*

WOW! A BODY SHOT LANDED BY TAYLOR!

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Did you see the Wright Taylor one? ;):D

*punch hits Winky's Elbow*

WOW! A BODY SHOT LANDED BY TAYLOR!

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Yes, I saw them change their opinion in the 12th round from Winky fighting a smart fight and then before the round closes saying that Winky was giving away the round.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Did you see the Wright Taylor one? ;):D

*punch hits Winky's Elbow*

WOW! A BODY SHOT LANDED BY TAYLOR!

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Ha did you notice how later on in the fight Lampley started commenting on how well Jermain was blocking shots ;D

A new low considering every right hand that hit Winky's gloves was a "big right hand."

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Did you see the Wright Taylor one? ;):D

*punch hits Winky's Elbow*

WOW! A BODY SHOT LANDED BY TAYLOR!

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Ha did you notice how later on in the fight Lampley started commenting on how well Jermain was blocking shots ;D

A new low considering every right hand that hit Winky's gloves was a "big right hand."

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Yes and a miss was "He's got Wright HURT! HURT BADLY!!"

I didnt watch it all mthe way through, quite frankly I thought it was rubbish, how Ike gets all the attention he does is beyond me, he looked slow and foolish quite like peter against Toney, so what, big deal, the guy was nothing special ???

this fight was at the TACOMA DOME huh?

i think Ike is in Jail for assault on the hooker. Is in Jail now and has changed his name from i be a buchi to ...I be a Bitch She

I was expecting more replies since everybody talks about Ike

I wasn't sold on Ike....sure he showed power vs Byrd and a chin vs Tua but he NEVER had to box anyone. I honestly think Lewis would have beaten him and Holyfield too

And IMO Byrd frustrated Ike to the point he went swinging for the fences and it paid off for him

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I was expecting more replies since everybody talks about Ike

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No disrespect to you Majesty...

Honestly I think its cause you are kinda off on your analysis....... You are awfully crtitical of Ike and scrutinize him like he was a 10 year pro or a fake alphaet title holder(valuev, maskaev) Ike never relized his potential and was very raw The Hype was VERY REAL he wasn't a product of a Promoter like (Valuev, Antonio Margarito etc.)...He earned his rep and was the complete package..

Speed
Power
Excellent Footwork
unreal stamina
Ring Smarts
Excellent defense
Unbeliavable punch output

Chris Byrd was an awsome southpaw and a Giant killer in the Heavyweight division his elusiveness speed and skills and concrete chin made a fool out of the Majority of the Heavyweights....Besides Wlad who shit on Chris Byrd like Ike did??? NO ONE did Byrd was a proven world class fighter

Ike hunted Byrd in that fight and pressured him like no one could do up to that point and few to none did after that fight.....Ike showed exceptional handspeed and just flat out took Chris's head off to the point he was drooling on himself.....He was so out of it he was argueing to the ref that it wasnt a knock down....ARE YOU SHITTEN ME??? he damn near decapitated him and than instead of fighting he was still argueing with the ref after the ref let him continue...The far away look in his eyes was worse than Meldrik Taylor's so it was waved off Mercifully....

Ike is a looney sum bitch out of the ring but in the ring he was a force and a freak of Nature

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I wasn't sold on Ike....sure he showed power vs Byrd and a chin vs Tua but he NEVER had to box anyone. I honestly think Lewis would have beaten him and Holyfield too

And IMO Byrd frustrated Ike to the point he went swinging for the fences and it paid off for him

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Byrd frustrated everybody Lyle.....(Except Wlad) ;) Thats how the little man survived that long I mean he beats Tua the heir apparent at the time and the slicker than grease Byrd and the young man gets no love Huh?

Just cause you dont like him outside the ring dosent mean he cant get his props...

Lampley always uses lots of adjectives when describing the HBO fighers punches. Blistering, punishing, etc...

He also sometimes calls a punch for the wrong guy, and attributes it to the other.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I was expecting more replies since everybody talks about Ike

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No disrespect to you Majesty...

Honestly I think its cause you are kinda off on your analysis....... You are awfully crtitical of Ike and scrutinize him like he was a 10 year pro or a fake alphaet title holder(valuev, maskaev) Ike never relized his potential and was very raw The Hype was VERY REAL he wasn't a product of a Promoter like (Valuev, Antonio Margarito etc.)...He earned his rep and was the complete package..

Speed
Power
Excellent Footwork
unreal stamina
Ring Smarts
Excellent defense
Unbeliavable punch output

Chris Byrd was an awsome southpaw and a Giant killer in the Heavyweight division his elusiveness speed and skills and concrete chin made a fool out of the Majority of the Heavyweights....Besides Wlad who shit on Chris Byrd like Ike did??? NO ONE did Byrd was a proven world class fighter

Ike hunted Byrd in that fight and pressured him like no one could do up to that point and few to none did after that fight.....Ike showed exceptional handspeed and just flat out took Chris's head off to the point he was drooling on himself.....He was so out of it he was argueing to the ref that it wasnt a knock down....ARE YOU SHITTEN ME??? he damn near decapitated him and than instead of fighting he was still argueing with the ref after the ref let him continue...The far away look in his eyes was worse than Meldrik Taylor's so it was waved off Mercifully....

Ike is a looney sum bitch out of the ring but in the ring he was a force and a freak of Nature

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I get what you're saying. And that would be a great point. But if you noticed in the post, my beef wasn't with Ike ;)

If you want me to talk about Ike here it is, everyone makes it seem like Ike was some world beater that would have dominated the Heavyweight division and everything in it. And he isn't. he didn't win one round against Byrd there. And sure he pressured him but it wasn't effective aggressiveness until he landed that haymaker. And thats what annoys me.



But like I told you I wasn't dissing Ike. I was dissing HBO who was treating Ike like he was Oscar or something, calling every miss a hit and things like that. I'm not critical of Ike, I'm critical that the HBO announcers should quit being so got damned bias. THAT is what disgusted me.

re-read my first post please, take a second to listen who you think this record is dissin ;)

At that point in time a match with Tyson would have been GREAT for either Byrd or Ibeabuchi....not some much for Mike though

I like Byrd...he's a good guy

I don't get a stiffy everytime Ibeabuchi's name is brought up like SOME posters. He had his skills but no questions were EVER answered about him.

Chin he showed it vs Tua....I'll pass him on that
Stamina he showed it vs Tua.....he passes again
Power he showed it vs Byrd...good job

But he was 20 (15 KO's)-0-0.....how much can you tell from someone who only has 20 fights and only fought 2 well known opponents that were limited in style one way or another. 1 had no power the other had nothing but power......now what if a Lewis, Holyfield, or someone else fought him???

Everytime you talk about Ibeabuchi it's always about 2 fights he had