Dariusz Michalczewski vs Mikkel Kessler
So I was thinking these guys are/were pretty hyped but it can be argued that they never got to fight an all time great in their prime or in Mikkel's case, just not yet.
What happens if they fought each other
Re: Dariusz Michalczewski vs Mikkel Kessler
Kessler would batter Michalczewski. Michalczewski has been retired for 18 months.
Re: Dariusz Michalczewski vs Mikkel Kessler
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
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Michalczewski wasn't a bad fighter. He was no where near Jones level, but he wasn't bad. There's a reason Calzaghe never wanted to fight him.
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Michalczewski wasn't a bad fighter. He was no where near Jones level, but he wasn't bad. There's a reason Calzaghe never wanted to fight him.
who really knows???? nobody goes out on a limb to fight or challenge themselves...Except B-HOP and Taylor...maybe Winky.....I'll call it a draw...:)
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Michalczewski wasn't a bad fighter. He was no where near Jones level, but he wasn't bad. There's a reason Calzaghe never wanted to fight him.
Sorry i think you got your wires crossed, you mean there was a reason RJJ didnt fight him, the reason Calzaghe didnt fight him might be something to do with the fact they were not in the same weight class. ;)
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Michalczewski wasn't a bad fighter. He was no where near Jones level, but he wasn't bad. There's a reason Calzaghe never wanted to fight him.
Sorry i think you got your wires crossed, you mean there was a reason RJJ didnt fight him, the reason Calzaghe didnt fight him might be something to do with the fact they were not in the same weight class. ;)
Jones didn't want to go to Europe. Michalczewski didn't want to come to the US. That's why that didn't happen. Michalczewski and Calzaghe never fight outside of Europe. They should of fought. The 7 pound diffrence in weight, means nothing considering Calzaghe said he can fight as a Light Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from 1977-05-12 and Mikkel from 1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Michalczewski wasn't a bad fighter. He was no where near Jones level, but he wasn't bad. There's a reason Calzaghe never wanted to fight him.
Sorry i think you got your wires crossed, you mean there was a reason RJJ didnt fight him, the reason Calzaghe didnt fight him might be something to do with the fact they were not in the same weight class. ;)
Really? But wasn't he going to fight Glen Johnson at that very weight class(Light heavyweight)?
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
Only physically imo. He hasn't faced anyone near close to the style of Calzaghe so how is he going to deal with it? Calzaghe has seen just about everything. Kessler is still a baby when it comes to experience and styles you face. It's Lacy like in the sense that he's basically fought against the same type of style his career and when he faces someone like Calzaghe where he'll have to reach into plan B and C for, he won't know what to do. Thats what happened to Lacy and it would happen to Kessler if him and Calzaghe fought one another.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
Only physically imo. He hasn't faced anyone near close to the style of Calzaghe so how is he going to deal with it? Calzaghe has seen just about everything. Kessler is still a baby when it comes to experience and styles you face. It's Lacy like in the sense that he's basically fought against the same type of style his career and when he faces someone like Calzaghe where he'll have to reach into plan B and C for, he won't know what to do. Thats what happened to Lacy and it would happen to Kessler if him and Calzaghe fought one another.
What the fuck you talking about? Kessler has fought 38 times. He's beaten 6 former world champions. He's been a pro for almost 10 years. Lacy barely had over 20 fights when he fought Calzaghe. He's been a pro barely 5 years. He never beat a champion for his belt. It was vacant when he won it. Big diffrence. Kessler is in his fuckin prime right now! He he loses (which I doubt) it's because he got his ass kicked. Not cuz of lack of experience.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
Only physically imo. He hasn't faced anyone near close to the style of Calzaghe so how is he going to deal with it? Calzaghe has seen just about everything. Kessler is still a baby when it comes to experience and styles you face. It's Lacy like in the sense that he's basically fought against the same type of style his career and when he faces someone like Calzaghe where he'll have to reach into plan B and C for, he won't know what to do. Thats what happened to Lacy and it would happen to Kessler if him and Calzaghe fought one another.
What the fuck you talking about? Kessler has fought 38 times. He's beaten 6 former world champions. He's been a pro for almost 10 years. Lacy barely had over 20 fights when he fought Calzaghe. He's been a pro barely 5 years. He never beat a champion for his belt. It was vacant when he won it. Big diffrence. Kessler is in his fuckin prime right now! He he loses (which I doubt) it's because he got his ass kicked. Not cuz of lack of experience.
It has to be because of experience too. Calzaghe is gonna do things that Kessler aint gonna be able to adapt to or stop. So Calzaghe knowing those things and Kessler not knowing how to stop them has to do with experience. The bonus is that he'll get his ass kicked. Calzaghe is in his prime right now, it's not his physical prime but its some of the best he's been. Kessler is in his physical prime right now, but he still has room to grow and he still has room to get better. Thats why I said Kessler isn't in his prime yet since he hasn't peaked yet.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
Only physically imo. He hasn't faced anyone near close to the style of Calzaghe so how is he going to deal with it? Calzaghe has seen just about everything. Kessler is still a baby when it comes to experience and styles you face. It's Lacy like in the sense that he's basically fought against the same type of style his career and when he faces someone like Calzaghe where he'll have to reach into plan B and C for, he won't know what to do. Thats what happened to Lacy and it would happen to Kessler if him and Calzaghe fought one another.
What the F*** you talking about? Kessler has fought 38 times. He's beaten 6 former world champions. He's been a pro for almost 10 years. Lacy barely had over 20 fights when he fought Calzaghe. He's been a pro barely 5 years. He never beat a champion for his belt. It was vacant when he won it. Big diffrence. Kessler is in his F****** prime right now! He he loses (which I doubt) it's because he got his a** kicked. Not cuz of lack of experience.
It has to be because of experience too. Calzaghe is gonna do things that Kessler aint gonna be able to adapt to or stop. So Calzaghe knowing those things and Kessler not knowing how to stop them has to do with experience. The bonus is that he'll get his a** kicked. Calzaghe is in his prime right now, it's not his physical prime but its some of the best he's been. Kessler is in his physical prime right now, but he still has room to grow and he still has room to get better. Thats why I said Kessler isn't in his prime yet since he hasn't peaked yet.
But look at how they performed against their respective opponents. Kessler has always looked good, where Calzaghe has had some sloppy fights
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 4YOU
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Originally Posted by Lyle
In their respective primes Memphis....of course Kess would whup him now
Kessler is still not at his prime. Posters continues to write that Lacy is young, but Lacy is from
1977-05-12 and Mikkel from
1979-03-01 - Within 18-24 months I have no doubt that he will be top 3 P4P - I dont know how far Dariusz ever went on the P4P ranking?
Age doesn't matter. Kessler has fought over 35 times. This is his prime.
Only physically imo. He hasn't faced anyone near close to the style of Calzaghe so how is he going to deal with it? Calzaghe has seen just about everything. Kessler is still a baby when it comes to experience and styles you face. It's Lacy like in the sense that he's basically fought against the same type of style his career and when he faces someone like Calzaghe where he'll have to reach into plan B and C for, he won't know what to do. Thats what happened to Lacy and it would happen to Kessler if him and Calzaghe fought one another.
What the F*** you talking about? Kessler has fought 38 times. He's beaten 6 former world champions. He's been a pro for almost 10 years. Lacy barely had over 20 fights when he fought Calzaghe. He's been a pro barely 5 years. He never beat a champion for his belt. It was vacant when he won it. Big diffrence. Kessler is in his F****** prime right now! He he loses (which I doubt) it's because he got his a** kicked. Not cuz of lack of experience.
It has to be because of experience too. Calzaghe is gonna do things that Kessler aint gonna be able to adapt to or stop. So Calzaghe knowing those things and Kessler not knowing how to stop them has to do with experience. The bonus is that he'll get his a** kicked. Calzaghe is in his prime right now, it's not his physical prime but its some of the best he's been. Kessler is in his physical prime right now, but he still has room to grow and he still has room to get better. Thats why I said Kessler isn't in his prime yet since he hasn't peaked yet.
But look at how they performed against their respective opponents. Kessler has always looked good, where Calzaghe has had some sloppy fights
You can't judge by that.
Showtime example
Zab Judah vs Allan Vester
Kostya Tszyu vs. Oktay Urkal
This was to size up the match between those two.
How they performed.
Judah looked spectacular.
Tszyu struggled.
So what did that mean when they fought each other...
Precisely diddily squat!!! ;)