What do you think of this
1) PBF
2)Pacman
3)Wright
4)Taylor
5)Barrera
6) Hopkins
7) Wojnojgkham
8)R.Marquez
9)Hatton
10) Calzaghe
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What do you think of this
1) PBF
2)Pacman
3)Wright
4)Taylor
5)Barrera
6) Hopkins
7) Wojnojgkham
8)R.Marquez
9)Hatton
10) Calzaghe
I think Hopkins is off because he's retired and Calzaghe is higher up.
IN terms of value for money and excitement.... Pacman is #1.
I think Pac will be no.1 after May 5th ;D
I don't think Winky's done anything that would move him down. I definitely had him winning the Taylor fight. He's definitely not as exciting to watch as Pacquiao--no one is--but he is technically superior nonetheless.
I don't know "Wojnojghkam", so I'd move R. Marquez up one, put Castillo at 8, JM Marquez at 9, and would not include Hatton. (I'd say he's maybe around 15 or 16 p4p--we'll see how he does against Castillo).
Replace JMM with Casamayor and I'm with you. I think JMM needs to do a little more to get back in there after the Chris John fight (like beating Chris John, for instance).Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Bob
Right off the bat IMO, Pongsaklek has NO business in a P4P list all you gotta do is look at his record and see the best opponent his been in the ring was probably a then undefeated Hussein I swear in his 60+ fights I recognize about 3 fighters from his record... P4P you gotta be kdding... Not only that but to put him above Hatton and R.Marquez is insane....Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
Hopkins shouldnt be on there as he is retired.
IMO....
It's better this wayQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
#1 pac...why? because his brutal force will make any one brawl plus his speed and power and now counter right hooks too much arsenal...
#2 winky...why?took out tito mosley twice and draw with the man who beat the man taylor.
#3 taylor...why?he beat the hopkins twice when hopkins was p4p king...but draw with winky...its more a 2a 2b not 3rd place for taylor...
#4 floyd...why? the biggest dissapointment in boxing today...talented but can't brawl for shyt...boring more and more...will lose yes will lose to equal speed more power and a brutal brawler...floyd can't run for twelve rounds he can't box for 12 rounds against equal speed more power and sheer pressure aggression like? who? pacman that's who...
believe it people stop getting caught up to another protected american blow up doll.
#5 and on...I don't care
Protected? Castillo (twice), Corrales, Judah, Baldomir -- all big names, all completely dominated, with the exception of the first castillo fight (and he didn't act "protected" and run from a rematch--he fought it immediately).Quote:
Originally Posted by true p4p king
"Ability to brawl" is not a big factor in p4p. Look at the top guys over the years. Look at your own #2. The best p4p boxers are always very technically sound. "Entertainment value" is completely irrelevant. The point of p4p is to judge skills, i.e., how successful someone's style is, not how fan-friendly it is.
Honestly, Pacquiao is probably my favorite guy to watch, but he doesn't have the boxing skills to be ranked #1--you can see his flaws watching him. I don't see any technical flaws at all in Floyd, and see very few in Winky.
And Floyd is now fighting at 4 divisions heavier than Pacquiao, so I'm not sure what you're talking about saying that Pacman could beat Floyd. You really think Pacman would survive at 147 or 154? And did you forget that when Floyd was fighting at Pac's current weight he was KO'ing everyone too?
1. PBF - hate to admit it, but it's true
2. Winky - to me, he beat taylor. Even if you call it a draw, he's the smaller man.
3. Pac - 'nuff said.
4. Barrerra - still has it.
5. R Marquez - tough little bastard
6. Casamayor
7. Joe C.
8. Taylor - I guess he goes here. I can't justify putting him lower, just for hanging near even with Winky and Hopkins.
9. Castillo
10. Hatton
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam-- he hasnt lost in 8 years and is champ for 5 years, 17 title defences
When you fight guys like this in your 61st fight Isidro Balabat 5-3-0 you can put your numbers of defenses and yrs. as a champ through the roof....Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
The only 3 names on his record that are good oponents, Tunacao, Naito & Hussein-Hussein... Thats about it....
P4P, Not when you have fighters on the list beating GREATS and WORLD CLASS oponents....