Re: dream top 10 match ups
Al, isn't all you are doing comparing similar fighters (style-wise) to each other?
That will probably tell us who is the best brawler, or pure boxer, or box-puncher etc - but wouldn't it be good to put (say) Marciano up against Jeff Willard, to see if he could do what Dempsey did, or whether Willard would have found a way past it?
You have a good list there, but a little jiggle around then gives us hours to thought and topics of conversation?
Hagler - Robinson at MW? Would the real Sugarman have conned Hagler the same way?
Hearns v Benn at middle?
Liston v Frazier - would Old Stoneface have ambushed Joe as quickly?
Holmes v Foreman - Larry couldn't rope-a-dope as well as Ali, but he would approached the fight in a different way?
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also somat to mention especially with dempsey , willard fighting someone like marciano and tht woudl be what era this may sound stupid but look at it this way dempsey was allowed to pretty much stand over willard waiting for him to get up in the era of marciano this would not be possible and all the rumours that dempsey had sumat in his glove gainst willard which would not be allowed to happen today i mean i rekon i could knock willard out if i had a big piece of steel in my glove :D
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Firstly its Jess Willard not Jeff
Secondly thses are the match ups i want to see.
fights i think wud be great for me to watch
:)
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ye mate im not criticsing them its ur opinion and there no right and wrong answers just saying alot would depend on when the fight happen due to rule changes
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Seen as though no-one else is gonna have a ago
Marciano – split decision
The old man Foreman wins by using his Jab
The young man Foreman loses a split decision
Clay wins by UD
Duran wins by UD
Hagler wins on points
Robinson wins on points
Hearns by points or Mccallum by round 7 KO
Lopez by points
Jones by split decision or Archie Moore by TKO
Draw
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Nice one
Here are my views.
1. Marciano ko 11.
2. Foreman Ko2.
3. Clay split 15.
4. Duran vChavez DRAW 15.
5. Hagler w 15.
6. Robinson points 15.
7. Hearns w15.
8. Ricardo Lopez split 15.
9. Roy Jones w15.
10. Sanchez ko13.
Rules are 15 round 80's rules
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How about these ones:
Cassius Clay v the Ali that fought in Zaire
Young Foreman v Old Foreman
Welterweight Robinson v Middleweight Robinson
Carnera v Valuev
Young Toney v Old Toney at light-heavy
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Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
These are my top ten fights i would have love to see.
All fighters are in thier prime bouts over 15 rounds.
1. Dempsey v Marciano.
2. Foreman v Liston.
3. Clay v Holmes.
4. Duran v Chavez at LIGHTWEIGHT.
5, Hagler v Ketchel.
6. Robinson v Leonard at Welter.
7. Hearns v Mccallum at lightmiddle.
8. Ricardo Lopez v Jimmy Wilde at FLY.
9. Roy Jones v Archie Moore lightheavy.
10. Salvador Sanchez v Marco Antonio Barrera at feather.
1.Marciano TKO.
2.Foreman TKO.
3.Clay TKO.
4.Duran decision.
5.Hagler decision.
6.Too close to call this is my NUMBER ONE hypothetical match up of all time.
7.Hearns decision.
8.Jimmy Wilde decision.
9.Roy Jones TKO.
10.Barrera UD.
wooooo lol that was some hard thinking!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
These are my top ten fights i would have love to see.
All fighters are in thier prime bouts over 15 rounds.
1. Dempsey v Marciano.
2. Foreman v Liston.
3. Clay v Holmes.
4. Duran v Chavez at LIGHTWEIGHT.
5, Hagler v Ketchel.
6. Robinson v Leonard at Welter.
7. Hearns v Mccallum at lightmiddle.
8. Ricardo Lopez v Jimmy Wilde at FLY.
9. Roy Jones v Archie Moore lightheavy.
10. Salvador Sanchez v Marco Antonio Barrera at feather.
marciano ko
foreman ko
draw cant decide
duran decision
havent seen ketchel
robinson by razor thin decision
hearns by ud
not seen jimmy wilde
roy jones by one sided decision
not seen sanchez either sorry
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Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
These are my top ten fights i would have love to see.
All fighters are in thier prime bouts over 15 rounds.
1. Dempsey v Marciano.
2. Foreman v Liston.
3. Clay v Holmes.
4. Duran v Chavez at LIGHTWEIGHT.
5, Hagler v Ketchel.
6. Robinson v Leonard at Welter.
7. Hearns v Mccallum at lightmiddle.
8. Ricardo Lopez v Jimmy Wilde at FLY.
9. Roy Jones v Archie Moore lightheavy.
10. Salvador Sanchez v Marco Antonio Barrera at feather.
Marciano
Liston: In his prime he hit almost as hard as Foreman, but he was a way better boxer... almost every expert believes he wins this hands down.
3. IMO Homles would beat Ali in any time of his career... His jab was too fast, and too good for Ali to overcome.
4. Duran ko's him, and its easier than alot of people believe.
5. Hagler.
6. Leonard is too fast, and too skilled for Robinson who wouldn't be able to take him out... Leonard beats him on the outside.
7. Hearns vs. McCallum... I say that Hearns is still too skinny and that McCallum punishes him to the body, and stops him late.
8. Not sure close one.
9. This would be like Jones-TOney except worse.
10. Barrera I think wins this.
Some other fights I think would be good
Louis-Holyfield: I think Holyfield wins this personally.
Foreman-Tyson: Tyson would do a bigger number on him than Morrison did.
Carbajal-Calveron:Carbajal by TKO/KO
Henry Armstrong-Willie Pep
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Id rather look at the match ups the could of but never happened.
Top ten outside of Heavyweights:
Dela Hoya - Wright (@ 154 - 2004)
Instead of Oscar getting Money hungry an fighting overmatched and over sized Strum and Hopkins
Toney - Benn (@ 160 - 1991)
Graham - Eubank (@ 160 - 1991)
These two fights would of served as a great eliminator at a time when each of these fighters were in prime condition.
Graham - Leonard (@ 160 - 1989)
McCullum - Hearns (@ 160 - 1989)
As above but probably four times better! The ultimate elimination. Could of gave Graham his dream shot at one of the graets or even gave us Leonard - Hearns III :o
Top 10 Heavyweight match ups:
5. Foreman - Tyson (1986... Seriously)
Would have been a bigger test for Tyson than Berbick
4. Bowe - Tyson (1992)
For good or bad, would of done more to cement either fighters legacy
3. Greb - Dempsey (1920)
For me, this would of been the acid test for Dempsey
2. Marciano - Liston (1956)
As above but i also feel that Marciano would of been slaughterd. Hence dispelling any Myths that currently surround his career
1. Holmes - Foreman (1980)
No argument what so ever... For me, this fight is the fight of all fights! To this day, this fight would still be regarded as one of if not the best heavyweight fight ever and it would of no doubt bumped up the winners chance at being recognised as one of the top 3 Heavyweights of all time
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Great topic 8)
Bowe v Holmes
Bowe v Tyson
Bowe v Lewis
RJJ V M Spinks
Pepp v MAB OR Morales
Robinson v Leonard (Welter)
Chavez v Duran (Lightweight)
Pryor v PBF (Light Welter)
Hagler v Monzon
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OK I'll give it a shot...
Pryor VS Tszyu
Hearns Vs Robinson at 147
Tyson Vs Foreman....Prime Vs Prime
Jack Johnson Vs Holmes
Pep Vs Barrera
Sanchez Vs Morales
Toney Vs Hagler
Jones Vs Michael Spinks at LH
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Originally Posted by X
How about these ones:
Cassius Clay v the Ali that fought in Zaire clay wins
Young Foreman v Old Foreman young foreman wins
Welterweight Robinson v Middleweight Robinson middleweight robinson
Carnera v Valuev they both suck!..who cares
Young Toney v Old Toney at light-heavy gotta go old toney
all would be very interesting