Will Oscar's power or Mayweather's speed rule the day ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doSXJCS3B7U
A clip of Oscar in action - one thing that stands out is Oscar's obvious height advantage and the leverage he can pull off in his hooks. He looks huge compared to Gatti during their Welter fight.
Floyd is arguably less powerful and perhaps the light-middleweight limit will allow a big Oscar into the ring - and knowing De La Hoya, he'll ensure the ring is not big as he pulls the strings.
Will Floyd's ring craft and superior defence keep him out of the danger zone? Oscar can certainly mix it up when he chooses to and is up against arguably his smallest opponent for years.
Props to Floyd for taking this on - he's gonna have a big fight on his hands thats for sure. One i'm struggling to pick.
I think either Floyd will steal a decision...or the ref will stop the fight as Oscar smothers him.
Does anyone else see this panning out differently to the above?
Could Oscar eek out a decision? if he can roll back the years and be aggressive, that's a possibilty.
I think perhaps it boils to Oscar's size..... or age.... winning or losing it for him.
With regards Floyd i would say it boils down to defence & Speed......or size difference...winning or losing it for him.
Their only common opponent is Gatti.
Oscar minced him up at 147 wheras Floyd did him at 140.
Oscar dropped him in the first round of their 2001 fight and stopped him in 5 rounds,
Floyd stopped him in 6 rounds - not that this tells us very much i suppose. We could think that Oscar fought a bigger, younger Gatti and stopped him quicker?
But then again Floyd put on an absolute clinic in his outing.
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Ring size is a huge factor in this fight I would say its everything in this fight. ... a standard ring. would favor Oscar, Oscar would be able to cut it off. get his shots off and have better success following up on punches. . However in a large ring ( Fast Ring) , the type Floyd usually fights in ... its favors Floyd , It’s much harder to cut off. and gives Mayweather lots of Real Estate to pot shot and move , hampering Oscar's chance to set and fire
In a smaller ring 16-18 foot I favor Oscar, in a large ring 22-27 foot I favor Floyd..
Its really that simple IMO.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. Fuck outta here.
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The only reason I could envision Oscar's power giving Floyd problems is because the power is in his lead hand. Oscar is left handed and carries the power in his lead hand meaning that Floyd isn't going to have the same amount of time to react to his punches. However, Floyd has been really good about avoiding lead punches his entire career and Oscar isn't going to be the fastest guy he's ever faced. Floyd has reflexes on par with the all time greats so I don't see Oscar having to much sucess with the left. IMO, it's going to be a battle of wits. Left hook or no left hook, Oscar is going to be there the whole fight so it's going to be adjustments on the fly the whole fly. IMO, the fight is so difficult to breakdown because the fight is going to take on a million different looks through the course of 12 rounds. It isn't your traditional speed versus power matchup, it's two of the smartest fighters in the game going at it with each posessing about an equal number of advantages.
As complex as it all is to me, I still think that Mayweather prevails. He's in his prime and no way is he going to be distracted going in. Oscar's the Golden Boy and PBF knows it.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. F*** outta here.
okay think about what you are saying....... who has he fought that makes him a great fighter?...........a over the hill arturo gatti,
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The only reason I could envision Oscar's power giving Floyd problems is because the power is in his lead hand. Oscar is left handed and carries the power in his lead hand meaning that Floyd isn't going to have the same amount of time to react to his punches. However, Floyd has been really good about avoiding lead punches his entire career and Oscar isn't going to be the fastest guy he's ever faced. Floyd has reflexes on par with the all time greats so I don't see Oscar having to much sucess with the left. IMO, it's going to be a battle of wits. Left hook or no left hook, Oscar is going to be there the whole fight so it's going to be adjustments on the fly the whole fly. IMO, the fight is so difficult to breakdown because the fight is going to take on a million different looks through the course of 12 rounds. It isn't your traditional speed versus power matchup, it's two of the smartest fighters in the game going at it with each posessing about an equal number of advantages.
As complex as it all is to me, I still think that Mayweather prevails. He's in his prime and no way is he going to be distracted going in. Oscar's the Golden Boy and PBF knows it.
Exactly. CC. Well put. I think it's gonna be Floyd very carefully boxing and putting emphasis on the body for the first half of the fight and after ODLH tires from all of his missed punches, Floyd will open up a bit more. The one thing that I will say is that in Floyd fights, he usually gets caught with one really good shot when he's backing up, and he usually brushes it off, I don't know if Floyd's beard is good at 154. If ODLH gets that one shot, it could be the difference.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. F*** outta here.
okay think about what you are saying....... who has he fought that makes him a great fighter?...........a over the hill arturo gatti,
Floyd's skill set makes him the best in the world. He trains harder than anybody, except maybe Ricky Hatton. He's got the best defense and reflexes in the game right now, his hand speed is very good, he's the best fighter in the world fighting when backing up or on the ropes, he's great in the pocket. He hardly gets hit. He's probably the smartest boxer in the world, well that might be an overstatement, JoeCal and B-Hop are very smart too. We could have everyone on Saddoboxing's forum chime in on Floyd's record and we'll have people that feel that Floyd is overrated, underrated, or just right. But the one thing I think that everyone can agree on, is that based on overall skills, Floyd is #1 in the world.
But since you brought it up, I'm very curious to see who you think is a great fighter in boxing right now. Enlighten me.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. F*** outta here.
okay think about what you are saying....... who has he fought that makes him a great fighter?...........a over the hill arturo gatti,
Floyd's skill set makes him the best in the world. He trains harder than anybody, except maybe Ricky Hatton. He's got the best defense and reflexes in the game right now, his hand speed is very good, he's the best fighter in the world fighting when backing up or on the ropes, he's great in the pocket. He hardly gets hit. He's probably the smartest boxer in the world, well that might be an overstatement, JoeCal and B-Hop are very smart too. We could have everyone on Saddoboxing's forum chime in on Floyd's record and we'll have people that feel that Floyd is overrated, underrated, or just right. But the one thing I think that everyone can agree on, is that based on overall skills, Floyd is #1 in the world.
But since you brought it up, I'm very curious to see who you think is a great fighter in boxing right now. Enlighten me.
i think right now a great fighter boxing is juan manuel marquez.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Run along junior the Adults are trying to talk here
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. F*** outta here.
okay think about what you are saying....... who has he fought that makes him a great fighter?...........a over the hill arturo gatti,
Floyd's skill set makes him the best in the world. He trains harder than anybody, except maybe Ricky Hatton. He's got the best defense and reflexes in the game right now, his hand speed is very good, he's the best fighter in the world fighting when backing up or on the ropes, he's great in the pocket. He hardly gets hit. He's probably the smartest boxer in the world, well that might be an overstatement, JoeCal and B-Hop are very smart too. We could have everyone on Saddoboxing's forum chime in on Floyd's record and we'll have people that feel that Floyd is overrated, underrated, or just right. But the one thing I think that everyone can agree on, is that based on overall skills, Floyd is #1 in the world.
But since you brought it up, I'm very curious to see who you think is a great fighter in boxing right now. Enlighten me.
i think right now a great fighter boxing is juan manuel marquez.
JMM isn't even the best fighter in his division. JMM will get thrown in the garbage by Manny Pacquiao again and MAB can even beat JMM. You're not making any sense.
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FLOYD HAS NEVER FOUGHT A TRUE CHAMPION HE CLEARLY DID NOT BEAT CASTILLO .HE IS ALSO FIGHTING A OLD DELAHOYA WHO I STILL THINK COULD WIN BUT LETS SEE.
Yeah, Floyd never beat Castillo ::**. You're a pretty smart guy.
dont be a groupie homie only cause u are fan of mayweather look at like a true athlete would come on we all know mayweather lost against castillo and floyd is just so clearly overrated.
Yeah, so Floyd had a tough night the first fight, but he was a man and gave JLC a rematch, in which he proceeded to outbox JLC for 12 rounds. If you actually watch boxing, you would never say Floyd is overrated. F*** outta here.
okay think about what you are saying....... who has he fought that makes him a great fighter?...........a over the hill arturo gatti,
Floyd's skill set makes him the best in the world. He trains harder than anybody, except maybe Ricky Hatton. He's got the best defense and reflexes in the game right now, his hand speed is very good, he's the best fighter in the world fighting when backing up or on the ropes, he's great in the pocket. He hardly gets hit. He's probably the smartest boxer in the world, well that might be an overstatement, JoeCal and B-Hop are very smart too. We could have everyone on Saddoboxing's forum chime in on Floyd's record and we'll have people that feel that Floyd is overrated, underrated, or just right. But the one thing I think that everyone can agree on, is that based on overall skills, Floyd is #1 in the world.
But since you brought it up, I'm very curious to see who you think is a great fighter in boxing right now. Enlighten me.
i think right now a great fighter boxing is juan manuel marquez.
JMM isn't even the best fighter in his division. JMM will get thrown in the garbage by Manny Pacquiao again and MAB can even beat JMM. You're not making any sense.
hahhaha are u blind why is pacman avoiding a rematch?haha that ring any bells?
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i think floyd is going to win the fight by a decision or de la hoya is going to win by decision or ko. floyd wont knock de la hoya out thats for sure.
