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right ok i know ali started at lightheavyweight do you think he would of been still as affective as lightheavy and if you do how do you think he would fare against one of fastest men in boxing roy jones
dont think anyone has thought of this before i think its quite an interesting match up if ali was still affective at that weight what do you guys think ??
Hmmmm....Roy Jones was damn good at LW....but Ali was one of the best Heavies of all time so if he was smaller i guess he would keep his speed with more power...So im saying Ali TKO.
Well he was about the fastest HW I ever saw/Seen... at LH he was quicker and had a hell of a punch...I pick Ali
do you no what guys i cant agree. you might think whats this lunatic talkin about but ive followed both fighters and i believe roy jones would beat ali at lightheavy. i love ali to death and everything he did but i think roy jones would beat him. bein a betting man thats who i would put my money on. talkin prime on prime it would have to be jones, im sure theres some people out there who would agree.
I really think Ali's speed at LHW would have given Roy some serious agro, it is a hard one to call but Id have to say Ali by a late stoppage or points. If Roy did win, I think it would be a very close points decision at best, no in a 100 years could he stop Ali IMO.
Ali wouldn't make 175. No way he makes 175 imo.
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a young Cassius Clay may have been able to make 175. if he did, i think he would be too much for jones. jones never fought anyone good at light heavy, he was at his best at super middle. the quality light heavies he fought KOed him, ala Tarver and Johnson. If they could do it, what do you think Cassius Clay would've done to him, even a smaller lighter Clay than we saw against Liston I think would take apart the smaller Roy Jones and would have no problem matching his speed. But u also gotta think since it would have to be a younger Clay to be small enough to make that weight, would experience play a big factor? lol this is what makes these dream match ups so much fun to argue about. Cassius Clay by KO in 8.
I don't think Ali could have foughten at light heavyweight without losing alot because its too small of a weight class for him... At cruiserweight or at more functional weight like 185 I see Ali winning because he is too much of a combination of size and speed for RJJ to overcome, but the only Ali I see making LHW is in the early years of his career, and Roy would have picked that version of him apart. The Ali that fought at lightheavyweight was too skinny IMO, and though Ali is among the fastest heavyweights ever(Chris Byrd has faster hands, and Tyson threw faster combinations) I still think that he is leagues slower than RJJ at LHW who was faster than anyone at middleweight or heavier.
Ali won Gold at light heavy but he would have been WAAAAAAY too green for RJJ at 175.
Prime for Prime you HAVE to take Ali because he was so much bigger and he took such a great punch and he had a great jab and could flurry real well too.
RJJ-Bob Foster, Archie Moore, Floyd Patterson, Evander Holyfield or Michael Moorer would have been good at light heavy, cruiser, or heavyweight
I don't mean to scorn the poster here, but (to me) this is simply a massive mismatch.
Ali could have made light-heavy in his first few pro fights. He was 6'3", in his very early twenties, an internationally renowned amateur and Olympic gold medallist. He would be quicker than Jones, a better technical boxer than Jones, he could punch out light-heavies, he would have all the stamina in the world, even then he was tactically cute, massively confident and hungry as well. People didn't know then that he also had one of the all-time great chins.
Cassius Clay (then, of course) was also a hard man with a big streak of malice in him - he had not turned into the cuddly Ali who cam along in the seventies. This was a tough kid from segregated Kentucky. Lets not even bother pretending that outpointing a John Ruiz is anything like climbing into the ring against a young Muhammad Ali !!!!!
This is a mismatch, plain and simply IMO - Jones would simply not know what to do with Clay, who could choose how he wanted to beat Roy.
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