Nice...Israel Vazquez-Rafael Marquez looking like a real possibility

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Apparently Vazquez had said he wanted to fight Marquez, and Beristain told fightnews that that if somebody contacted him about it they would accept immediately, and even they could do it March 2007 at the Staples Center. Vazquez's manager seems to want it to happen too, and that neither fighter should fight anyone else first.

Damn, this is one my top possible fights to be made. Favoring Marquez.

Can't believe no one has posted here and this could be the fight of the year! CC in 24 my man. Wow,this is like a dream match up...2 of my faves and both should be P4P imo. I think if RAFA can carry his power up,he wins,I think he is one of the few fighters that could outblast Vazquez but did you see how determined,how strong Vazquez looked v Gonzalez? And he has SUCH heavy hands! After 2 or 3 big punches,he busted up Jhonny's face. I favour Rafa but it could be close and again,it depend on iif Marquez can carry his power(which I personally think he can)

I'd like to see the winner KTFO Caballro,I dont' like that guy!

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Can't believe no one has posted here and this could be the fight of the year! CC in 24 my man. Wow,this is like a dream match up...2 of my faves and both should be P4P imo. I think if RAFA can carry his power up,he wins,I think he is one of the few fighters that could outblast Vazquez but did you see how determined,how strong Vazquez looked v Gonzalez? And he has SUCH heavy hands! After 2 or 3 big punches,he busted up Jhonny's face. I favour Rafa but it could be close and again,it depend on iif Marquez can carry his power(which I personally think he can)

I'd like to see the winner KTFO Caballro,I dont' like that guy!

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I know, I was expecting more replies on this one, to me at least, its a huge fight

What makes you favour Marquez?? I think aside from JLC Hatton and Margarito Cotto,this is my most anticipated match up!

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What makes you favour Marquez?? I think aside from JLC Hatton and Margarito Cotto,this is my most anticipated match up!

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A lot of times Vazquez is too inactive, he needs to have his feet set, and be in position to punch. I think he has improved but watching the second Larios fight (if you havent' seen it its worth watching) and the first 6 rounds of the Gonzalez fight he can be kept at range and kept inactive looking for one punch. And I think Marquez could do it better, he could hurt Vazquez too.

But the late rounds could be real interesting, that's really Vazquez's time. And Marquez's chin might have been underrated for a while, but its not rock solid. But I'd favor Marquez still

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What makes you favour Marquez?? I think aside from JLC Hatton and Margarito Cotto,this is my most anticipated match up!

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A lot of times Vazquez is too inactive, he needs to have his feet set, and be in position to punch. I think he has improved but watching the second Larios fight (if you havent' seen it its worth watching) and the first 6 rounds of the Gonzalez fight he can be kept at range and kept inactive looking for one punch. And I think Marquez could do it better, he could hurt Vazquez too.

But the late rounds could be real interesting, that's really Vazquez's time. And Marquez's chin might have been underrated for a while, but its not rock solid. But I'd favor Marquez still

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I've seen that Larios fight and I see what you mean but Rafa Marquez doesn't use his jab as much as Larios did in that fight and it was just the long reach of Gonzalez and Larios which made it hard for Isreal. They both gave movement too and although it was only slight,I guess it meant Isreal could not sit down on his shots properly. I don't think these problems apply with Marquez who will be there in front of him. I agree though,Isreal usually comes on in the second half of fights. Excellent points though! Do you watch the same fight repeatedly to pick up on these things or just notice it?

I think Vazquez inactivity could be his donwfall,I can see him waiting on Rafa Marquez,and getting hurt i the process.

I have never seen any of Rafa Marquez losses and don't hear them mentioned much,did he get KTFO?

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What makes you favour Marquez?? I think aside from JLC Hatton and Margarito Cotto,this is my most anticipated match up!

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A lot of times Vazquez is too inactive, he needs to have his feet set, and be in position to punch. I think he has improved but watching the second Larios fight (if you havent' seen it its worth watching) and the first 6 rounds of the Gonzalez fight he can be kept at range and kept inactive looking for one punch. And I think Marquez could do it better, he could hurt Vazquez too.

But the late rounds could be real interesting, that's really Vazquez's time. And Marquez's chin might have been underrated for a while, but its not rock solid. But I'd favor Marquez still

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I've seen that Larios fight and I see what you mean but Rafa Marquez doesn't use his jab as much as Larios did in that fight and it was just the long reach of Gonzalez and Larios which made it hard for Isreal. They both gave movement too and although it was only slight,I guess it meant Isreal could not sit down on his shots properly. I don't think these problems apply with Marquez who will be there in front of him. I agree though,Isreal usually comes on in the second half of fights. Excellent points though! Do you watch the same fight repeatedly to pick up on these things or just notice it?

I think Vazquez inactivity could be his donwfall,I can see him waiting on Rafa Marquez,and getting hurt i the process.

I have never seen any of Rafa Marquez losses and don't hear them mentioned much,did he get KTFO?

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I could see Marquez maybe moving a little bit with Vazquez. Not running but circling a little.

I agree about the inactivity, sometimes Israel just takes too long too get going, that's just something I've noticed in most of the fights I've seen of him. He's a pressure fighter, but not really a volume puncher.

I have no idea about Marquez's losses except they were all three stoppages. Just going by boxrec, one was his pro debut, but for some reason he was fighting a guy that was like 39-14, not exactly a gimme for your debut. That was listed as a KO. Like his thirteenth or fourteenth fight he got TKO'd in three by a 7-3 guy, and then a bit later got KO'd in two by Genaro Garcia who's actually a pretty good fighter still, just lost a decision to Hasagawa for the bantamweight title. But I think its pretty clear he's improved but people have questioned his chin a bit cause of that. But its hard to know what kind of stoppages those were, two were listed as KO's but I didn't see them.

I'm just watching Marquez v Timmy Austin and the commentator touches on one ko,not sure which one but apparently,Rafa was knocked down and was on a knee,looking to his corner when to get to get up but he didn't get up in time and was counted to 10. The other 1,the one on his debut,that was self explanatory I guess,the experienced guy must have beaten his ass!

How do you think Ponce De leon does againt these 2? Techincally,they are far far advanced as are most of Ponce's opponents but he has high activity levels(seems to increase with each fight),strong as a bull,good chin,imposes his will on you and has banging power. I think he would lose but they would be exciting fights though!

Vazquez-Ponce would be a freaking war. I'd favor Vazquez but Israel's not gonna jab and move, it would be a fight so Ponce would have a real chance.

Marquez is a tougher matchup, probably a UD for Marquez.

Eventhough, R.Marquez is moving up and I don't know how the weight will carry over I'm gonna side with him and say he has what ot takes to TKO Vasquez, late rds. I would say rd. 8