Mike Tyson with Cus D'Amota
if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
Re: Mike Tyson with Cus D'Amota
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if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
beating tyson prime for prime here is my list
larry holmes
muhammad ali
george foreman
riddick bowe
prime holyfield
tyson was great but not as great as people make him seem and i mean he did lose 4 roudns to tony tucker and yes i know i keep bringing him up but tucker isnt as great as the ones i mentioned and he did injury his right hand in training but anyway thats my list on who would beat tyson even with cus
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Originally Posted by the phenom
if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
beating tyson prime for prime here is my list
larry holmes
muhammad ali
george foreman
riddick bowe
prime holyfield
tyson was great but not as great as people make him seem and i mean he did lose 4 roudns to tony tucker and yes i know i keep bringing him up but tucker isnt as great as the ones i mentioned and he did injury his right hand in training but anyway thats my list on who would beat tyson even with cus
well i see foreman and ali but just cant see larry holmes or bowe beating him
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by the phenom
if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
beating tyson prime for prime here is my list
larry holmes
muhammad ali
george foreman
riddick bowe
prime holyfield
tyson was great but not as great as people make him seem and i mean he did lose 4 roudns to tony tucker and yes i know i keep bringing him up but tucker isnt as great as the ones i mentioned and he did injury his right hand in training but anyway thats my list on who would beat tyson even with cus
well i see foreman and ali but just cant see larry holmes or bowe beating him
larry holmes in his prime was excellent mate he had great stamina good chin great jab good footwork and good speed all the stuff that you need to beat tyson as for bowe i dont know really how great he was i used to say bowe would beat tyson for sure but after i heard he struggled against and out of his prime tony tubbs which alot of people thought tubbs won im not so sure anymore and this was bowe in his prime aswell
Re: Mike Tyson with Cus D'Amota
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Originally Posted by the phenom
if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
Like I've said 100 times before, if he had retired after the Spinks fight EVERYBODY would have him top 3 HW of all time!! Even you ICECOLD ;D
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if cus never died i think tyson would be considered the greatest boxer of all time,he hadspeed power and good defense but its after cus left that u seen tyson lose grip on his carreer .... and how far up u think he is considered with some of the other legends i see him  in the top ten cuz i cant really see any heavyweight beating him in his prime... foreman mayb ali and thas it
Like I've said 100 times before, if he had retired after the Spinks fight EVERYBODY would have him top 3 HW of all time!! Even you ICECOLD  ;D
yea and if larry holmes wouldnt of got robbed by spinks and retired how high would larry holmes been ?? but no i wouldnt of rated tyson that high after he retired of spinks fight because now we would be saying how good was he ?? he retired too soon and didnt do his full potential ive got nothing against tyson i think he was great fighter but he isnt as great as you guys make out like* he was unbeatable in his prime* thats all nonsense to me mate but like i said i got nothing against tyson he was great but you guys overrate him too much imo anyway mate
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Holmes would still be where he is now TOP 5 (as is Tyson) ;)
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You have to ask yourself, why people that were alive at the time ;D were so taken by Tyson and why he was the biggest sportsman on the planet. He wasn't controversial at that time, all the attention was purely boxing related. You have to ask why nobody since Ali, and nobody post Tyson has ever created that excitement ;)
The answer lies in the fact that he really was that good
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i know you rate holmes highly mate but alot dont just imagine if he would of retired underfeated if he wouldnt of got robbed by spinks as for tyson he was great mate but not unbeatable like people try and make out but he was damn good i never tried to say he wernt but i think holmes ali would both beat tyson in there primes imo anyway mate
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Mike Tyson vs Tony Tucker: Part 1
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see in the footage here tucker was doing very good for first 4 rounds he just couldnt keep it up imo and young larry holmes and ali with both of there great stamina and good chins would keep that up for 12 rounds and win a decision
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Mike Tyson vs Tony Tucker: Part 1
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see in the footage here tucker was doing very good for first 4 rounds he just couldnt keep it up imo and young larry holmes and ali with both of there great stamina and good chins would keep that up for 12 rounds and win a decision
seen it it is possible to beat tyson and i favor ali and mayb larry but the thing is dont forget every puncher can win with that devasting shot ... if frazier couldve put ali on his ass mayb tyson could to but thas a big ass mayb though
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Mike Tyson vs Tony Tucker: Part 1
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see in the footage here tucker was doing very good for first 4 rounds he just couldnt keep it up imo and young larry holmes and ali with both of there great stamina and good chins would keep that up for 12 rounds and win a decision
seen it it is possible to beat tyson and i favor ali and mayb larry but the thing is dont forget every puncher can win with that devasting shot ... if frazier couldve put ali on his a** mayb tyson could to but thas a big a** mayb though
yea but that was in 15th round when he got floored by fraizer when im putting tyson against the greats im doing it at 12 rounds because tyson never went 15 rounds before mate so i dont know how good he would be at 15 rounds so i think its only fair to do it at 12 rounds
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if frazier couldve put ali on his a** mayb tyson could to but thas a big a** mayb though
The left hook Joe Frazier landed in the 15th round may be the single hardest, most explosive punch that I've ever seen in a boxing ring.
I would counter that if I Ali could get to his feet after that punch, he could survive any punch from Tyson or any other fighter in history.
By the way, the left hook Frazier landed at the beginning of Round 6 in Manila may be the second hardest punch I've ever seen, and Ali didn't even go down. Amazing chin.
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if frazier couldve put ali on his a** mayb tyson could to but thas a big a** mayb though
The left hook Joe Frazier landed in the 15th round may be the single hardest, most explosive punch that I've ever seen in a boxing ring.
I would counter that if I Ali could get to his feet after that punch, he could survive any punch from Tyson or any other fighter in history.
By the way, the left hook Frazier landed at the beginning of Round 6 in Manila may be the second hardest punch I've ever seen, and Ali didn't even go down. Amazing chin.
you seem like knowledgeable poster mate did that left hook that floored ali in 15th break his jaw because i cant remember
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I couldn't call a Prime Holmes Prime Tyson fight, I may lean towards Holmes if it went long. But one thing I do know i that Holmes would NEVER had taken the punches that KOed him at anytime during his career, and was his defence really that shot in 88 :-\
