Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
By Ted Sares:
If Wladimir Klitschko faces Oleg Maskaev instead of Ray Austin (and there is now some talk this might occur), it will it be a virtual repeat of the Brock blow out. Let's break it down.
Size: Unlike Austin, Oleg will not see eye to eye with Klitschko and will weigh somewhat less. The Russian has an 79' reach while Dr. Steel hammer has an 81' span. The "Big O" is 6' 3. Wladimir is an imposing 6'6." Size favors Klitchko, though both are hard bodied men. Still, Wlad's elongated and heavily veined muscles make for great jackhammer power. Edge to Klitchko.
Record: Maskaev, 34-5 with 26 ko's. Wladimir is 47-3 with 42 ko's and a great ko percentage of 84%. Oleg's is not bad either and he is known for having great power. Both have enjoyed clean one-punch icings. But edge to Klitchko, who was an Olympic Gold Medal winner.
Quality of Opposition: Clear edge for Klitchko. Oleg has knocked out former WBO Heavyweight challenger Derrick Jefferson, Courage Tshabalala, former contender Alex Stewart and former WBC Heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman. (twice),
But if a won-lost tally of Klitchko's opponents were done, the results would be absolutely astounding. Most of his opponents had outstanding records coming in. Axel Schulz Phil Jackson, Cody Koch, Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline, Derrick Jefferson. Danell Nicholson, Eliseo Castillo, Samuel Peter and many more.
Common Opponents: Both have Ko'd Derrick Jefferson.
Style: As I have stated before, Manny Steward has helped to perfect a killing machine. Having watched The big Ukrainian dispatch Bryd and Brock in brutal fashion, I now believe "Dr. Steel Hammer" has become a Killer Robot type. He uses a simple recipe. Figure out your opponent's style, adjust accordingly, shift into automatic and execute. For Klit, this usually means punishing jabs with increasing volume and then a straight sledgehammer right down the pipe. Sometimes a nice hook, preferably to the body, is thrown in to keep an opponent off stride. His one-two is superb and his ability to keep his opponents away by using his superior size is improving as well, though he sometimes has a habit of clinching too much. If he does clinch, he should use it as an opportunity to do some damaging body work.
"The Big O" is not a multi-dimensional fighter, is slow and sometimes plods. He relies on his considerable power but if he connects, he can turn things around quickly. Like Klitchko, he has good focus and like Klitchko, he is an excellent closer..
Edge in power to the Doctor and big overall edge in style to him.
Chin: Oleg is noted for having a suspicious chin and this was very much in evidence in his ko losses to Oliver McCall, David Tua, Kirk Johnson (a particularly concussive one), "Goofie" Whitaker (for God's sakes) and Corey Sanders (another brutal one). Both have been decked; both have been stopped, but Wlad has never been iced in the manner of Oleg. For once, Wlad gets the nod in the chin department.
AGE: Wladimir is 31, Oleg is 37. But Wladimir is getting just a tad long in the tooth in ring age. He has had a long boxing career (amateur and professional). Still, he is far from growing "old overnight."
Conditioning and stamina: Both fighters will be fit and ready. Questions still linger about Klitchko but I think they are behind him.
Intangibles: If the fight takes place, Oleg will be in great shape. It will be a big pay day and he knows it could lead to others. Klitchko must be ready and stay within himself (i.e., focused) at all times. He also needs a better cut man in his corner. His symbiosis with Manny gets better and better. Victor Valle Junior has done a solid job with the "Big O," but clearly he is no Manny Steward.
Big edge to Wlad.
Outcome: Dr. Steel Hammer will feel out the plodding, one dimensional Oleg early and then come up with his plan of execution which will be to pick up the pace in the 3rd and 4rth with an increasing number of stiff jabs and an occasional straight right and maybe a hook thrown in for good measure. The jabs will slow the Russian down. He may stun Klitchko with a right of his own and do some decent work in the clinches, but the big Ukrainian will remain focused and fight through it. If he doesn't, he will be knocked out, for once Maskaev has his man hurt, he can move in for the kill as adroitly as anyone. But I don't see that happening here.
Klitchko will begin executing his plan by greatly increasing the number and intensity of jabs in the 5th (maybe even fifty or more) prepping Maskaev for the kill. In the 7th and final round, Wladimir will execute. His high volume of punishing jabs and right crosses will have taken a heavy toll on the game Oleg who will not see the brutal and concussive final right coming down the pipe. When it lands, The Big O will have suffered his sixth ko loss.
Exciting for as long as it lasts.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
Wlad sticks to the jab blocks Oleg's initial swarming attack until Wlad gets comfortable and begins dropping the right cross on Maskaev and it isn't long before Oleg is dropped.....Wlad manages a slow steady pace and stops Oleg in 6
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Wlad sticks to the jab blocks Oleg's initial swarming attack until Wlad gets comfortable and begins dropping the right cross on Maskaev and it isn't long before Oleg is dropped.....Wlad manages a slow steady pace and stops Oleg in 6
Exactly.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
If it happens..lets look at the odds! lets do it together! LOGICALLY!
The BIG O is coming off of a huge repeat KO of Rahman
Both guys have chins made of paper thin sheets of ice.
It probably will go as you have scripted it, It should.
BUT! if Wlad waits 5 round before uncorking the right hand like he did against Brock, Oleg will have 15 minites to find a home for any one of the decent big punches he can and does throw.
A Oleg KO is a strong (30%?,20%?) possibility! you have to agree on that.
Also a gassed out Wlad is a possible outcome as well (30%?) All of his losses were due at least in part to EXTREME FATIGUE! wouldn't you agree based on past performances? Be honest...
Now Wlad has a history of holding and other "questionable tactics"
don't forget the Biko Botowumungu fight where they refused to continue due to wlad,s cheating. He does hold , A LOT! So point deductions and a DQ are a possible outcome as well, all be it small, say 10%??
Then of course there are cuts! DON't forget the Williamson fight was stopped due to Wlad's Horrible cuts! and we have seen how bad the Klitschkos can be cut,they are bleeders!. So maybe a fluke headbutt or punch stops him? maybe 20% chance?
Then there is of course the un known...cramps,sickness,twisted ankle (remember Micheal Grant?) broken hand etc...Hell he even said he was POISONED one time. thats the nature of boxing! anything can happen. it remote tho' to be honest say 10%??
So lets add it up..30% + 30% + 10% + 20% + 10%......hmm carry the one......let's see......thats a 100% chance of a win by Oleg!!
Well done! for once we agree!!
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
Ah, an orgy of agreement! ;D
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
If a gassed Wladet up with a concussive shot from Oleg, we could get surprised, but I'm willing to let DaxxKahn hold the money on that not happening.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
Make that, "If a gassed Wlad got concussed with a shot from Oleg......."
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
There is no reason other than bad luck or total stupidity that Wlad will lose this fight. If I had to lay money on Brock v Maskaev, I'll put it on Brock. Brock has better D than Maskaev. He has some pop in his punches, and though he's not fast, he's certainly not slower than Maskaev. Just like Brock (who I like very much) his only chance against Wlad is a punchers chance, and IMHO, he has much less of one than Brock had.
CC for the thoughtful post.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
By Ted Sares:
Klitchko will begin executing his plan by greatly increasing the number and intensity of jabs in the 5th (maybe even fifty or more) prepping Maskaev for the kill. In the 7th and final round, Wladimir will execute. His high volume of punishing jabs and right crosses will have taken a heavy toll on the game Oleg who will not see the brutal and concussive final right coming down the pipe. When it lands, The Big O will have suffered his sixth ko loss.
Yup, the 7th . . . . jabbing until he feels comfortable . . . . just like his last two fights. . . and this is not a bad thing.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Originally Posted by landmine950
If it happens..lets look at the odds! lets do it together! LOGICALLY!
The BIG O is coming off of a huge repeat KO of Rahman
Both guys have chins made of paper thin sheets of ice.
It probably will go as you have scripted it, It should.
BUT! if Wlad waits 5 round before uncorking the right hand like he did against Brock, Oleg will have 15 minites to find a home for any one of the decent big punches he can and does throw.
A Oleg KO is a strong (30%?,20%?) possibility! you have to agree on that.
Also a gassed out Wlad is a possible outcome as well (30%?) All of his losses were due at least in part to EXTREME FATIGUE! wouldn't you agree based on past performances? Be honest...
Now Wlad has a history of holding and other "questionable tactics"
don't forget the Biko Botowumungu fight where they refused to continue due to wlad,s cheating. He does hold , A LOT! So point deductions and a DQ are a possible outcome as well, all be it small, say 10%??
Then of course there are cuts! DON't forget the Williamson fight was stopped due to Wlad's Horrible cuts! and we have seen how bad the Klitschkos can be cut,they are bleeders!. So maybe a fluke headbutt or punch stops him? maybe 20% chance?
Then there is of course the un known...cramps,sickness,twisted ankle (remember Micheal Grant?) broken hand etc...Hell he even said he was POISONED one time. thats the nature of boxing! anything can happen. it remote tho' to be honest say 10%??
So lets add it up..30% + 30% + 10% + 20% + 10%......hmm carry the one......let's see......thats a 100% chance of a win by Oleg!!
Well done! for once we agree!!
Please explain how Wladimir cheated in the fight with Botowamungu?Wladimir didn't hold Biko was the one holding.Where do you come up with this stuff? ::**
As far as holding,Wladimir does not hold any more than the average heavyweight.
A Wladimir KO of Maskaev is a much higher % outcome than the other way around.
What are Wlads, as you put it "questionable tactics"?
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by landmine950
If it happens..lets look at the odds! lets do it together! LOGICALLY!
The BIG O is coming off of a huge repeat KO of Rahman
Both guys have chins made of paper thin sheets of ice.
It probably will go as you have scripted it, It should.
BUT! if Wlad waits 5 round before uncorking the right hand like he did against Brock, Oleg will have 15 minites to find a home for any one of the decent big punches he can and does throw.
A Oleg KO is a strong (30%?,20%?) possibility! you have to agree on that.
Also a gassed out Wlad is a possible outcome as well (30%?) All of his losses were due at least in part to EXTREME FATIGUE! wouldn't you agree based on past performances? Be honest...
Now Wlad has a history of holding and other "questionable tactics"
don't forget the Biko Botowumungu fight where they refused to continue due to wlad,s cheating. He does hold , A LOT! So point deductions and a DQ are a possible outcome as well, all be it small, say 10%??
Then of course there are cuts! DON't forget the Williamson fight was stopped due to Wlad's Horrible cuts! and we have seen how bad the Klitschkos can be cut,they are bleeders!. So maybe a fluke headbutt or punch stops him? maybe 20% chance?
Then there is of course the un known...cramps,sickness,twisted ankle (remember Micheal Grant?) broken hand etc...Hell he even said he was POISONED one time. thats the nature of boxing! anything can happen. it remote tho' to be honest say 10%??
So lets add it up..30% + 30% + 10% + 20% + 10%......hmm carry the one......let's see......thats a 100% chance of a win by Oleg!!
Well done! for once we agree!!
Please explain how Wladimir cheated in the fight with Botowamungu?Wladimir didn't hold Biko was the one holding.Where do you come up with this stuff? ::**
As far as holding,Wladimir does not hold any more than the average heavyweight.
A Wladimir KO of Maskaev is a much higher % outcome than the other way around.
What are Wlads, as you put it "questionable tactics"?
Wlad only got into boxing because he likes hugging hot sweaty men.
I hear that him and John Ruiz are engaged..
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by landmine950
If it happens..lets look at the odds! lets do it together! LOGICALLY!
The BIG O is coming off of a huge repeat KO of Rahman
Both guys have chins made of paper thin sheets of ice.
It probably will go as you have scripted it, It should.
BUT! if Wlad waits 5 round before uncorking the right hand like he did against Brock, Oleg will have 15 minites to find a home for any one of the decent big punches he can and does throw.
A Oleg KO is a strong (30%?,20%?) possibility! you have to agree on that.
Also a gassed out Wlad is a possible outcome as well (30%?) All of his losses were due at least in part to EXTREME FATIGUE! wouldn't you agree based on past performances? Be honest...
Now Wlad has a history of holding and other "questionable tactics"
don't forget the Biko Botowumungu fight where they refused to continue due to wlad,s cheating. He does hold , A LOT! So point deductions and a DQ are a possible outcome as well, all be it small, say 10%??
Then of course there are cuts! DON't forget the Williamson fight was stopped due to Wlad's Horrible cuts! and we have seen how bad the Klitschkos can be cut,they are bleeders!. So maybe a fluke headbutt or punch stops him? maybe 20% chance?
Then there is of course the un known...cramps,sickness,twisted ankle (remember Micheal Grant?) broken hand etc...Hell he even said he was POISONED one time. thats the nature of boxing! anything can happen. it remote tho' to be honest say 10%??
So lets add it up..30% + 30% + 10% + 20% + 10%......hmm carry the one......let's see......thats a 100% chance of a win by Oleg!!
Well done! for once we agree!!
Please explain how Wladimir cheated in the fight with Botowamungu?Wladimir didn't hold Biko was the one holding.Where do you come up with this stuff? ::**
As far as holding,Wladimir does not hold any more than the average heavyweight.
A Wladimir KO of Maskaev is a much higher % outcome than the other way around.
What are Wlads, as you put it "questionable tactics"?
Wlad only got into boxing because he likes hugging hot sweaty men.
I hear that him and John Ruiz are engaged..
I heard the same thing.
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
Yeah everyone here seems to know how it will go . We can never be sure ofcourse but logic dictates that Wvlad is all over him like a rash and stops him pretty easily .
If I was Oleg with this mountainous task infront of me and given the limited skill i'd make this fight as close to Wvlads chest as possible , stay on him , dont allow him distance to box , test his heart , mental strength , grit and determination . Wvlads chin and stamina anre teh two question marks so Oleg really has to focus on those areas . He isnt going to win boxing how he usually boxes . He is Tailor made for Wvald who would box his ears off and knock him out in no time.
If Oleg can rough up Wvlad and knock him out of his rythm , its his only shot . If not a crushing right hand from Wvlad ends this fight early .
Re: Breakdown of Klitchko vs. Maskaev (if they fight)
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Klitchko will begin executing his plan by greatly increasing the number and intensity of jabs in the 5th (maybe even fifty or more) prepping Maskaev for the kill. In the 7th and final round, Wladimir will execute. His high volume of punishing jabs and right crosses will have taken a heavy toll on the game Oleg who will not see the brutal and concussive final right coming down the pipe. When it lands, The Big O will have suffered his sixth ko loss.
Exciting for as long as it lasts.
agreed!!!
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Originally Posted by landmine950
If it happens..lets look at the odds! lets do it together! LOGICALLY!
The BIG O is coming off of a huge repeat KO of Rahman
Both guys have chins made of paper thin sheets of ice.
It probably will go as you have scripted it, It should.
BUT! if Wlad waits 5 round before uncorking the right hand like he did against Brock, Oleg will have 15 minites to find a home for any one of the decent big punches he can and does throw.
A Oleg KO is a strong (30%?,20%?) possibility! you have to agree on that.
Also a gassed out Wlad is a possible outcome as well (30%?) All of his losses were due at least in part to EXTREME FATIGUE! wouldn't you agree based on past performances? Be honest...
Now Wlad has a history of holding and other "questionable tactics"
don't forget the Biko Botowumungu fight where they refused to continue due to wlad,s cheating. He does hold , A LOT! So point deductions and a DQ are a possible outcome as well, all be it small, say 10%??
Then of course there are cuts! DON't forget the Williamson fight was stopped due to Wlad's Horrible cuts! and we have seen how bad the Klitschkos can be cut,they are bleeders!. So maybe a fluke headbutt or punch stops him? maybe 20% chance?
Then there is of course the un known...cramps,sickness,twisted ankle (remember Micheal Grant?) broken hand etc...Hell he even said he was POISONED one time. thats the nature of boxing! anything can happen. it remote tho' to be honest say 10%??
So lets add it up..30% + 30% + 10% + 20% + 10%......hmm carry the one......let's see......thats a 100% chance of a win by Oleg!!
Well done! for once we agree!!
your way of thinking is completely mind boggling, just reading your valuev posts then this post, proves that you have some type of hate for the guy, which is cool, but dont try and convince anyone else with your methods...
they are silly, and belong at one of those other boxing forums
