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It was like watching the New Years countdown..... ;D
5,4,3,2,1...... Happy New Champion.... :)
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop to smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
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It was like watching the New Years countdown..... ;D
5,4,3,2,1...... Happy New Champion.... :)
:lol: cc
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
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I think they both deserve to be there.....
The winner of N'dou vs. D-Hop should IMO face Almazbek Raiymkulov (When SalTheButcher reads this hes gonna shit! his pant's) ;D
Credit where credit is due, he deserves a shot....
Also Holt is closing in on the top dawgs!!
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Well Junior Witter must be pleased, he is surely now considered the best champion at 140lb!
I mean M'baye, Torres and Ndou could hardly be a worse trio of world champs.
You just know that Ricky is going to want to go after Torres and M'baye, I mean 5 then 6 world title belts, it's just too big an opportunity to miss :P
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou
beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou
beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
We actually had this fight televised in the UK on channel 5 fight of the week, and Rabah tasted a bit of Urango's power, then ran away. How can you win rounds on the back foot? You can't. 2 of the 4 criteria you score on is effective punching and aggression, the other 2 are generalship and defence, but everyone knows there's more emphasis on the first 2. On that basis Urango won more rounds.
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou
beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
We actually had this fight televised in the UK on channel 5 fight of the week, and Rabah tasted a bit of Urango's power, then ran away. How can you win rounds on the back foot? You can't. 2 of the 4 criteria you score on is effective punching and aggression, the other 2 are generalship and defence, but everyone knows there's more emphasis on the first 2. On that basis Urango won more rounds.
Urango wasn't being effectively aggressive, just aggressive
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou
beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
We actually had this fight televised in the UK on channel 5 fight of the week, and Rabah tasted a bit of Urango's power, then ran away. How can you win rounds on the back foot? You can't. 2 of the 4 criteria you score on is effective punching and aggression, the other 2 are generalship and defence, but everyone knows there's more emphasis on the first 2. On that basis Urango won more rounds.
Urango wasn't being effectively aggressive, just aggressive
If one guy takes a step forward, and the other takes a step backwards, who's winning the fight? Either way Urango landed more shots in that fight, Urango looked like he was winning, he won.
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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou
beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
We actually had this fight televised in the UK on channel 5 fight of the week, and Rabah tasted a bit of Urango's power, then ran away. How can you win rounds on the back foot? You can't. 2 of the 4 criteria you score on is
effective punching and aggression, the other 2 are
generalship and defence, but everyone knows there's more emphasis on the first 2. On that basis Urango won more rounds.
Even if there were more emphasis on the first 2.. Rabah was by far the more effective puncher. Like Majesty said, all Urango had was aggression and he wasn't able to convert it into offence. And no way did Urango land more punches, or look like he won. Get over it.
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We'll agree to disagree, but there's nothing to get over p4pking. Rabah isn't so great really and neither is Urango. They're chalk and cheese and its what ever your opinion is whether you prefer one or the other, but let me ask you this, do you think Urango could beat N'dou?
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We'll agree to disagree, but there's nothing to get over p4pking. Rabah isn't so great really and neither is Urango. They're chalk and cheese and its what ever your opinion is whether you prefer one or the other, but let me ask you this, do you think Urango could beat N'dou?
I guess I just can't see how a knowledgable boxing fan could have scored that fight for Urango, but I guess we can't agree there.. As for Urango vs N'dou.... Meh, who knows? I didn't see N'dou beat Rabah so I can't really say. I will tell you I think alot of fighters could beat Urango. D Hopkins, Witter, Rabah, vivian Harris, Pauli Malignaggi, Edner Cherry, Juan Lazcano even I would favour to beat Urango. So yeah, I guess I think N'dou would probably beat him as well. N'dou is a relentless attacker with good body punching, and is extremely durable. I think he's almost just a slightly better version of Urango. Noone I've just mentioned I would consider elite though.
