Can the Klitschkos save the Heavyweight Division?

Most everyone will agree that the Heavyweight division ( and boxing in general) is plagued by the parasites that we know as "boxing organizations"
These for profit "business" have leeched the life blood of boxers and the sport itself for their own I'll gotton gains and contributed nothing to the sport itself other than to drag it down into disrepute! The alphabelt belt rankings and corrupt matchings are based on who will and won't pay sanctioning fees and "title" shots are based on payoffs, revenues and who will kick the most $ into deep greedy "boxing" organizations pockets! This is nothing new to any of us.
The sad Samuel Peter fiasco is just another page in the disgraceful Events that seem to unfold daily in the boxing world. After 2 clear wins and untold $ paid in sanctioning fees based on promises of mandatory title shots Samuel Peter sits waiting and is now being offered "side stepping" money so a bigger and brighter star or more lucrative cash cow can take his place! Legal "emeritus" status aside its still a mess! If there is no real basis of Peter's claim HE WOULD NOT BE BEING OFFERED ANY MONEY! plain and simple!
What Boxing needs is an UNDISPUTED CHAMPION in every division! a champion who's credentials eclipse the phony tag of belt holder with the universally recognised title of Undisputed WORLD Champion. A linear championship can then be Reestablished and the belts dumped into the garbage can as Riddick Bowie once attempted (reasons dubious!)
As for the HW division? And the current Peter/Maskaev/Klitschko situation?
I think That the Klitschkos brothers dream is to hold all 4 belts between the 2 of them. And since they won't fight each other that just delays what the sport wants and needs. A unification of all 4 belts for an undisputed WORLD heavyweight champion who can then establish a chronological championship lineage and get rid of the "power" that the belts hold on the division! That isn't something that the brothers are ever going to provide for the division
in spite of all the skills and good things they bring to the table!
(bold added for overly defensive Klitschko fans! lol)
Their motivations are selfish in that they place family unity and brotherly love above the interest of boxing (not that I'm saying thats wrong)
So if Vitali and Wlad can't (or won't ever) unify the 4 titles and bring REAL credibility to the Division
that it SO desperately needs!.
WHO CAN? WHO IS LEFT? that can do it??
who has a chance to beat the other title holders, bring recognition and media attention to the division, say with some kind of incredable record
(phony or not) make a title defense or 2 to solidify his postion and vanquish the phony belts to the position of obsolescence and irrelevance that they deserve!

The Klitschko won't! who's left??


Briggs?
Maskaev?


Hey wait a minute!!!!

man why am i not surprised this thread is actually about valuev!

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Originally Posted by armin

man why am i not surprised this thread is actually about valuev!

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Uh so you agree??


I'll take that as a yes.

Well I do kinda agree about the Klits, I'm hoping Sam Peter can hold fort until Evander Holyfield comes riding in and retakes his throne for the 4th time ;)

land got a give it to ya you totally twisted that one on me, but no I don't agree with ya. but cc for the cleverness

Actually on this post I'm serious.
maybe I've finally baffled myself with my own bulshit!! LOL
I loved Evander....but he's done...MAN! I'm 46!! whats Evander? 105?
Maybe because the div is so thin..
in a few years it may ALL be different

as for Bilbo...hold fort? he lost to wlad.....and lost his first fight to Toney.....again... I love the guy but he aint got what it takes..

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Originally Posted by landmine950

Actually on this post I'm serious.
maybe I've finally baffled myself with my own bulshit!! LOL
I loved Evander....but he's done...MAN! I'm 46!! whats Evander? 105?
Maybe because the div is so thin..
in a few years it may ALL be different

as for Bilbo...hold fort? he lost to wlad.....and lost his first fight to Toney.....again... I love the guy but he aint got what it takes..

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But to be champ these days you don't need to have what it takes.

i'll just answer what the title of the topic is;

Can the klitschkos save the heavyweight division?



yes.........

Wladimir potentially could. Not Vitali.

Let me answer as well,
Yes,

Wlad and vitali,
Owning all 4 belts will be the best thing for boxing.
why?
It will get sold as the Klitschko brothers OWNING the HWD. it will bring publicity to the HWD like we havent seen in years.
Think about how much the klitschko brothers were talked about (and still are) when they were fighting at the same time. Nevermind if they hold all the belts too. Even though they wont fight each other, people will talk about that possibility for years. The positive attention that it would bring would be Huge.
if vitali comes back right to a title shot, it will only be a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Wladimir potentially could. Not Vitali.

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If vitali's body is in working order and he has the balls to not quit anymore fights than i'd actually support him becoming the ring champ. Wladimir, just no.

Save it? They're trying to ruin it with corruption.

how are the klitschko's being corrupt?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Well I do kinda agree about the Klits, I'm hoping Sam Peter can hold fort until Evander Holyfield comes riding in and retakes his throne for the 4th time ;)

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And you rib me for picking Collazo!! ;D ::**

no they cant ones got no chin and the others a quitter.

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Originally Posted by landmine950

Most everyone will agree that the Heavyweight division ( and boxing in general) is plagued by the parasites that we know as "boxing organizations"
These for profit "business" have leeched the life blood of boxers and the sport itself for their own I'll gotton gains and contributed nothing to the sport itself other than to drag it down into disrepute! The alphabelt belt rankings and corrupt matchings are based on who will and won't pay sanctioning fees and "title" shots are based on payoffs, revenues and who will kick the most $ into deep greedy "boxing" organizations pockets! This is nothing new to any of us.
The sad Samuel Peter fiasco is just another page in the disgraceful Events that seem to unfold daily in the boxing world. After 2 clear wins and untold $ paid in sanctioning fees based on promises of mandatory title shots Samuel Peter sits waiting and is now being offered "side stepping" money so a bigger and brighter star or more lucrative cash cow can take his place! Legal "emeritus" status aside its still a mess! If there is no real basis of Peter's claim HE WOULD NOT BE BEING OFFERED ANY MONEY! plain and simple!
What Boxing needs is an UNDISPUTED CHAMPION in every division! a champion who's credentials eclipse the phony tag of belt holder with the universally recognised title of Undisputed WORLD Champion. A linear championship can then be Reestablished and the belts dumped into the garbage can as Riddick Bowie once attempted (reasons dubious!)
As for the HW division? And the current Peter/Maskaev/Klitschko situation?
I think That the Klitschkos brothers dream is to hold all 4 belts between the 2 of them. And since they won't fight each other that just delays what the sport wants and needs. A unification of all 4 belts for an undisputed WORLD heavyweight champion who can then establish a chronological championship lineage and get rid of the "power" that the belts hold on the division! That isn't something that the brothers are ever going to provide for the division
in spite of all the skills and good things they bring to the table!
(bold added for overly defensive Klitschko fans! lol)
Their motivations are selfish in that they place family unity and brotherly love above the interest of boxing (not that I'm saying thats wrong)
So if Vitali and Wlad can't (or won't ever) unify the 4 titles and bring REAL credibility to the Division
that it SO desperately needs!.
WHO CAN? WHO IS LEFT? that can do it??
who has a chance to beat the other title holders, bring recognition and media attention to the division, say with some kind of incredable record
(phony or not) make a title defense or 2 to solidify his postion and vanquish the phony belts to the position of obsolescence and irrelevance that they deserve!

The Klitschko won't! who's left??


Briggs?
Maskaev?


Hey wait a minute!!!!

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