I think judging by last night that Pavlik will clearly OUT BOX Miranda. Also does Edison Miranda really have that HUGE POWER that everyone is claiming? I dont think so. Pavlik has way more boxing skills and Power Period. If the fight happens I got Pavlik by KO in the 4th.
I don't blame the fight going the distance on a lack of power from Miranda. Green spent the whole fight running and holing, and in a 12 round fight, he would have KO'd Green. Green stayed on his feet after getting caught in round 1, but he from that point forward, he seemed scared to taste it again.
There are clearly flaws in Miranda's game, but I'm not sure Kelly Pavlik is the man to take advantage of them. I'm not sold on Pavlik yet. I'm not sure he's any better than Green. That being said, he may have better success with his straight fight against Miranda than Green had trying to ge off with his left. He'll have a reach advantage and he should be able to pop off some 1-2s. He would probably lead a little more.
Miranda would beat Pavlik, he really is that powerful. You saw in the 10th round against Green he was still hitting with huge power.
If Pavlick puts him down, he will stay down.
Like i said before Pavlik will out box the dirty un skilled but powerfull Miranda. Everyone Pavlik fights says thats the hardest they've ever been hit. Zertuche said the white boy got pop with every punch. Bronco Mckart said every single punch he throws hurts. I cant wait for Miranda to go down early if they fight.
When did Pavlik become this master boxer? Oh right,the same time Alan Green did. Make no mistake,Pantera is still learning but he has awesome power and Pavlik is NOT,I repeat NOT a great boxer.e's a great puncher,throws lots of leather but is as wiiiiiide open as Pantera. It would make for a great fight but Pantera has fought by far and away the better fighters and has still been winning,I'd favour Edison.
Personally...I'd pick Mirnada over Pavlik...based on their last 2 matches.
Miranda has just shown out a bit more.
To me Green and Pavlik are very similar except Pavlik does not move nearly as much and is much easier to hit.
Pantera would stop Pavlik before 6 rounds.
I hope it happens.
Miranda gets so frustrated he reminds me almost of a middleweight Andrew Golota.
If Pavlik has a tight enough defense or can take a punch he'll at least frustrate Miranda....Green showed Edison has balance issues as most power punchers do, but he was a little hurt by that shot too.
It'll be a good fight if it happens, I just hope Pavlik doesn't fight as cautiously as Green did.....Green should go to 168, he was too weight drained to fight at 160
Stop smoking Pavlik's pole dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
Of course every punch he throws 'hurts'
Bet you'd like some fistic action off Pavlik huh ? with a 'lil lube.
Miranda is a work in progress we all know this but as far as pavlik being this destruction machine and master boxer..I have yet to see it...Does the kid have power yes but IMO he doesn't hit as hard as Miranda on a bad day...
Miranda needs to be fine tuned to continue to be more sucessful on the next level but I will say this much for certain....
There is not a 160-168 pound fighter that can stand up and deal with an all out assult of Edison Miranda for more than 3 rounds...
I do not mean get in there and box him I mean an all out face to face fight with him doing what he does best ATTACK!!! At the pace he does it in once in the mode...
The knockdown by Green was not a hint of a questionable jaw either...
Put this guy with Steward or Roach for 6 months and you have a pound for pound machine
I completely agree. Green has more boxing skills than Pavlik does and Pavlik has a tendency to want to stand and trade after he gets hit. That could be a huge mistake against Pantera! Miranda would break Pavlik to pieces by the 6th or 7th round. The back-peddling Green couldn't back up his smack talk and he did everything he could to make it a boring fight. Miranda however wouldn't allow it to happen. To me, Miranda is the most exciting fighter in the sport. He had the fight in the bag by the final round and he was still going for the kill. As a fan, what more can you ask for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantera
Edison Pantera Miranda Interview: http://www.overhandright.com/Pantera...Interview.html
Miranda would take him.How can people say that Miranda doesnt have power?Green tied up and moved the whole fight...and when he did engage miranda caught him a couple of times with some nice shots.Green's legs were gone the end of the 9th and 10 rounds.
Pavlik would out box him and put him out around the mid, Miranda is a bad mofo, But I just see Pavilk making him looking silly. By no means am I counting Miranda out with out a chance, He has a punchers chance. But I will go with Pavlik.
Miranda would peel Pavlik's cap.