What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
OK everyone here debates about peoples record's...Who's is padded,,,,Who avoids top competition...Who should be seeking out better fights ect
It seems everyone here has a different idea on what makes a fighter a true P4P fighter and great Champion...
EG--Some guy's say Joe Calzaghe is a great Champion because of how long he has had the title and the fact he is undefeated...Others say he is only champion and undefeated becaused he fights the least dangerous guy's he can find making his title reign watered down....
Floyd Mayweather Jr gets simular criticizm due to the fact he has not fought names like Cotto,,Hatton,,ect....Yet others praise him for amount of belts he has won
So in everyones opinion what makes a great champion or at least a legit and worthy one....
Is it the guy who has the most defenses of a title reguardless of who it is against or the guy who has quality wins and quality defenses but less amount of successful bouts
Just curious on everyones opinion on which they prefer
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Someone that fights only the best and stands up to be counted when it matters most
Manny pac is a good champ
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
id say imo that quality of competition and the manner in which they win
for eg; joe louis has the most defences, but i rate ali higher cause he fought much tougher opposition
.......as for calzaghe, if he keeps his word and convincingly beats kessler after his done with peter, i will rate him higher and have a greater respect for the man
.......to be considered the best you have to beat the best 8)
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Fighting everyone ducking no one even if you lose fight best.
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Clever matchmaking makes a good champion.
Fans constantly slag off the top fighters in the world because we only wanna see 'em matched against the very best. But it's not reality.
No good champions career would last 5 minutes if they weren't served-up gimmes in amongst the tough 50/50 type fights.
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
IMHO there is no problem with fighting easy fights every now and again. Heck even most of the time. The world series champs get to play against the last place team.
What I think makes a true champion is unifying your division belts. If YOU are the champion of say the HW division, then you should not allow some other guy have a belt in your division and be called a HW champ. Same thing for when you go up in weight. Don't go through 2 or 3 divisions claiming you were the champ in all those divisions unless you actually beat ALL the title holders of that division.
This is a reason I have great respect for Tito. He unifyied the WW div. whent up to 154 won a title, unifyied the 154 title, went up to 160 won a title, tried to unify but got beat badly by B-Hop. He was not successfull but he tryied to do it right, he does not have any fake titles in 5 or 6 divs. He was THE CHAMP in 2 div and won a title in 3.
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Having a nice robe, I think.
;)
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
A fighter who is willing to fight any top fighter anywhere does'nt even have to hold a world title to be considered the best their is plenty of fighters who have world titles but only want to defend against the easier opposition to keep their titles notching up win after win not taking risks.A true champion should be willing to take risks only wanting to fight the pound for pound best risking a loss here and their.Barrera is a good champion he takes risks to prove himself and if he loses he is willing to take the risk again in a rematch a true warrior in my opinion even if he wins in a close fight rather than thinking a wins a win he fights them again to prove he can do better
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
A fighter who is willing to fight any top fighter anywhere does'nt even have to hold a world title to be considered the best their is
Yes, it's all about the robe. He doesn't need a world title to be considered the best ..... but a snazzy robe is a different manner.
The French Revolutionaries produced great fighters, all led by Robespierre
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Win, loose or Draw hes fought the best opposition possible for him to fight.
Ali, SRR, Duran, ODLH, JCC, Gomez, Tito, Evander.
They were willing to step in the ring against whomever. To me thats one of the things that makes a great champion.
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Win, loose or Draw hes fought the best opposition possible for him to fight.
Ali, SRR, Duran, ODLH, JCC, Gomez, Tito, Evander.
They were willing to step in the ring against whomever. To me thats one of the things that makes a great champion.
Simple,precise,and succinct.CC Mick. I'd like to add willing to stay at a weight class for a period of time to unify the titles/clean it out/fight the dangermen and the best fighters there. One of the best examples of this is Pernell Whitaker.
His willingness,even when he was P4P number 1,to fight ANYONE,was brilliant.As was the attitude of the guys Mick mentioned. Oscar is another brilliant example. How much respect has he gained from fight fans alllll around the world,even guys like me,who are not his biggest fans,with his willingness to fight the best.
I'm NOT a fan of jumping weight to weight,picking and choosing who to fight(guys who are not usually top 3 in the division),winning titles and running to the next division.Not fighting the threats or the dangermen.
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
I think a good champion is a fighter who challenges himself by consistently stepping up the opposition.  Who is humble in the presence of other fighters and shows understanding for the plight of the fan by not committing himself solely to PPV.  A good champion will step aside when it is appropriate to do so and not make excuses in the midsts of defeat.
Lastly, a good champion is American...
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Having a nice robe, I think.
;)
LOL
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
Fenster you are absolutaly correct. cc
Re: What Makes a Good Champion in your Opinion???
wILLINGNESS TIO FIGHT OFTEN AND LOT'S OF HUMILITY (READ NO TRASH-TALK).